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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #75 on: April 23, 2006, 03:00:37 PM »
Yes, the dining room is identified as Spala's in the book of Zichy's paintings (I checked once again). :-/
Now I think the room was definitely in Bielovezh, as the photos are from reliable source.
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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #76 on: October 21, 2006, 09:42:50 PM »
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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #77 on: October 21, 2006, 10:03:08 PM »
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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #78 on: October 24, 2006, 01:13:55 PM »
Joanna, these photographs are priceless.  I had no idea that anything like this existed.....I've spent an hour looking thru the links you posted.  What collection are these from?

I especially like the pictures with people in them and horses and carriages and etc.  There is such a good one of Alexandra from the back that I love, you can see exactly how she did her hair.  I've only seen her from the front or side.

You are so kind to post these for us!
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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #79 on: November 04, 2006, 07:08:30 AM »
Quote from: Arleen on October 24, 2006, 01:13:55 PM
  There is such a good one of Alexandra from the back that I love, you can see exactly how she did her hair.  I've only seen her from the front or side.
Can you post a direct link to that photo, Arleen?
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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #80 on: November 04, 2006, 08:55:09 AM »
What happened to Spala?

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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #81 on: November 04, 2006, 10:12:56 AM »
Quote from: amelia on November 04, 2006, 08:55:09 AM
What happened to Spala?

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In the 1920s-1930s Palace in Spala was a summer residence of the Polish presidents.
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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2007, 08:20:00 AM »
Does anyone know whether the imperial hunting lodge at Spala, in Poland, still exists, and, if so, what is its status?  Is it preserved as an historical site, is it privately owned?
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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #83 on: April 02, 2007, 11:08:41 AM »
An interesting question, to which I too would like to know the answer!

My paternal grandfather, Józef Dudzinski, was manager of the Tsar's estate at Spala probably from the early 1880s until 1910... The earliest document I have is dated 1871, so it could be that he started working for the Tsar even sooner.

Unfortunately, most of the contemporary documents I have are in Russian and either handwritten or in a handwritten typeface, and I can just barely follow some of the Russian from its similarity to Polish. Quite a number start  of them off with "Bozheyu milostyu, my, Nikolai Vtoryi, Impertaor i Samoderzhets Vserossiyskiy, Tsar Polskiy, Velikiy Knyaz Finlandskiy,...", and it would be nice to know what they say thereafter.

I'm trying to find someone to translate them for me or at least give me the gist.

However, I would be very interested in finding a photo or painting of the Spala hunting lodge. I've not been able to find more than fragments of the place on this website or elsewhere.



Sadly, there's no longer anyone else to ask, as everyone from my father's generation and beyond has now died. And as for my grandfather, I never met him as he died after being kicked in the head by one of the Tsar's horses! (I have the bill for his funeral: 46.60 roubles)
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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2007, 01:53:01 PM »
No, the Spala Hunting Lodge that was located in Poland no longer exists. 
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« Reply #85 on: April 04, 2007, 11:26:13 AM »
Thanks very much for finding the photo, Reco. I found some more interesting ones on the same website. There's even a good chance that my grandfather is in some of them, but I've no idea what he looked like at the time -- especially wearing a hat. The only photos I have from him date back to soon after he was married...
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« Reply #86 on: April 04, 2007, 07:13:45 PM »
I haven't a photo of Spala in years, and looking back on it, for an imperial hunting lodge...it isn't as grand as I expected it to be.  Still, it is a very good looking building.  Its a shame that it had suffered such a fate.
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« Reply #87 on: June 06, 2007, 06:25:47 PM »
In 1912,after a hunt,Nicholas and Dimitri his nephew:



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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #88 on: June 07, 2007, 04:24:00 AM »
Thank goodness these days are past.   This is a horrible photograph, but typical of the 'entertainment' of the time.   This still goes on at Balmoral, but is not photographed (there would be an outcry) and not to this excess.

Thanks for posting it Vassili.

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Re: Imperial houses in Poland: Spala, Skierniewice, Bialowieza
« Reply #89 on: December 05, 2007, 07:36:12 AM »
Quote from: Svetabel on April 23, 2006, 10:08:20 AM
The interiors of the Belovezh palace. Probably now  these are tne only photos of the Palace's rooms. Possibly the pictures were taken in 1900.

Interesting to see these posted, as they are really rare!
There are actually a few more interior photos still available at Bialowieza itself, in the gatehouse exhibition at the site of the lodge, and on CD. You can see some of them here: -

http://www.directarticle.org/Bialowieza_visits.html

This is part of an article by Greg King and me, which starts here: -

http://www.directarticle.org/bialowieza_contents.html

we laid the contents page out to represent a plan of the estate (so you can see more or less what it was like from the air), with links to the relevant sections, and I think we have more info assembled there than anywhere else online, certainly in English.

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