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Offline Yelena Aleksandrovna

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Victorian Fashion (by royal ladies)
« on: October 05, 2009, 07:06:20 PM »
I was thinking in the royal ladies who lived in the  Victorian time. To get dressed with Victorian Dresses.
I'm thinking in Sissi, Eugenie of Montijo (who was considered a leader of fashion) but what about russian
ladies? I saw one day some draws of Victorian dresses and were different in several countries (including Russia)
Do you know if they had a particular style?

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Re: Victorian Fashion (by royal ladies)
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2009, 08:26:19 PM »
I think that the style depended of the fashion period (Crinolines, Bustles, ham sleeves, etc etc)

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Re: Victorian Fashion (by royal ladies)
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2009, 12:04:09 AM »
Some royals were fashion leaders like Eugénie and Queen Alexandra. Alexandra hid a throat scar with jewelry, setting a fashion for "choker" or "dog-collar" necklaces.



Fashionable women did imitate Eugénie and Queen Alexandra, including a limp Alexandra developed from a bout of rheumatic fever in 1867 and Eugénie's hair color. Eugénie helped end the crinoline era, maybe the biggest single effect a royal had on fashions in the Victorian era. Eugénie cemented the fame of Chez Worth and the system of merchandising custom-made dresses Worth developed - the now largely faded "haute couture."

Designers became very important with the rise of Chez Worth, with help from Eugénie, Tsaritsa Maria Feodorovna, various aristocrats, plus assorted dollar princesses and others. Actresses were influential. The Dolly Varden dress of the the 1870s had a literary inspiration from Dickens. Royalty became less important as fashion leaders - no more launching styles such as the chemise à la reine (Marie Antoinette).

Images of royalty/nobility as examples of fashion can be found at:
http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/564694408jtuNGD ,
http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/564430282GbFgfX ,
http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/556019494hvAqrk (for Russian aristocracy from 1800-1914) ,
http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/555999475hwnXBn (for Empress Eugénie) , and
http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/555992641EdqbNT (for Queen Alexandra and her fashion-conscious sister Dagmar/Maria Feodorovna and their sister Thyra) .

Many of the images posted in these albums come from the Alexander Palace Time Machine Discussion Forum.

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Re: Victorian Fashion (by royal ladies)
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 08:24:13 AM »
What beautiful images gogm!! And in Europe, other that aren't Sissi or Eugenie of Montijo??

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Re: Victorian Fashion (by royal ladies)
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 09:43:18 AM »
In fact, although royal ladies of the Victorian period (which covers a great deal of ground) could be very fashionable, in general they didn't seem to think it a good idea to be really innovative fashion leaders. The Empress Eugenie, although one of the introducers of the crinoline as gogm says, was not its originator - she firmly said she would not set fashions, merely follow them at a respectable pace.   Queen Victoria herself was far from fashionable, even in the happy days of her marriage to Albert - her outfits were severely criticised by the Parisians on her state visit to France in 1855 (though they liked her style, which they thought much more regal than that of the Empress Eugenie).  Sissi did not innovate either - she looked splendid, especially in the days of the elongated crinoline, but that was due to her good looks and poise.   The only thing I can think of which was a true innovation was Queen Alexandra's high jewelled collars, and otherwise she was just very fashionable - not a leader, but in the forefront of fashion.  It is interesting that Alexandra was obliged to keep her visits to French fashion houses under the radar - her sister the Empress of Russia was much more open about it, but the greater involvement by the British public in the funding of their monarchy meant that they firmly believed that the busines of clothing them should stay in Britain.  

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Re: Victorian Fashion (by royal ladies)
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 01:01:57 PM »
Yes, they weren't axactly leaders of fashion, but all of them had their particular style at dressing,
the accesories and hairdos. About queen Victoria, she was so formal at getting dress, she didn't used
several ornaments that other Empresses than Sissi or Eugenie used. They got their own style.

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Re: Victorian Fashion (by royal ladies)
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2009, 05:18:03 PM »
What beautiful images gogm!! And in Europe, other that aren't Sissi or Eugenie of Montijo??

Please go through the first two albums listed, the one about the Russian aristocracy, and:  http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/562821859QUrDPw about Spanish and Portugese style.

The early Victorian album covers Sisi's sisters, among others. Ada Lovelace of computer programming fame is shown in that album.

Other albums cover the 1500s, 1600s, 1700s, Napoleonic/Regency era, and recent style. To reach them click on the word "albums" printed in orange in the upper left corner of any album page, find the album of interest, and click on the image or title of the album to enter the album.

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Re: Victorian Fashion (by royal ladies)
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2009, 04:16:28 AM »
   
Thanks for the information. It 's a wonderful collection of images

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Re: Victorian Fashion (by royal ladies)
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2009, 07:18:43 PM »
Amazing ones gogm!!
The necklaces that Alexandra used were very beautiful, the one of the photo below reminds me one
of one painting and photos of Zinaida Yusupova