Ella's grave in Jerusalem & her relics

[holynewmartyr]

Earlier this year, a relic of Saint Elizabeth visited several Russian Orthodox parishes in the Eparchy of Perm, Russia.
The following website has video regarding the visit: http://media.tv-soyuz.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2043&Itemid=67

Although the "reliquary ark" appears to show that it is the entire left hand and forearm of Saint Elizabeth contained within, it appears to be actually a small fragment of bone contained in the small circular window just past the wrist of the arm.  

As far as I know, only the right hand and forearm were removed at the time the relics were exhumed in Jerusalem for the canonization process.

[holynewmartyr]

The relics of Saint Elizabeth and Saint Barbara are currently visiting Russian Orthodox parishes in Great Britain and Ireland.

http://www.sourozh.org/web/A_part_of_the_Holy_Relics_of_the_righteous_martyr_Grand_Duchess_Elizabeth_will_arrive_at_the_London_Cathedral_of_the_Dormition_on_27_June

http://www.rocor.org.uk/news/ElizRelics_100609.html

Itinerary: http://www.rocor.org.uk/news/Relics_270609.html

[holynewmartyr]

There has been some controversy recently about the transfer of a portion of relics of Saints Elizabeth and Barbara from Saint Mary Magdalene Church in Jerusalem where their relics are kept to Saints Martha and Mary Convent in Moscow:

One report states that the nuns of Saint Mary Magdalene Church were pressured by Moscow to hand over the relics: http://rocorrefugees.blogspot.com/2009/08/mp-desecration-of-relics.html

Yet, the nuns themselves state that such a report is false and that the handover of relics was done in good faith and after consultation: http://www.russianorthodoxchurch.ws/synod/eng2009/8engethsemanestatement.html

[Svetabel]

There has been some controversy recently about the transfer of a portion of relics of Saints Elizabeth and Barbara from Saint Mary Magdalene Church in Jerusalem where their relics are kept to Saints Martha and Mary Convent in Moscow:

One report states that the nuns of Saint Mary Magdalene Church were pressured by Moscow to hand over the relics: http://rocorrefugees.blogspot.com/2009/08/mp-desecration-of-relics.html

Yet, the nuns themselves state that such a report is false and that the handover of relics was done in good faith and after consultation: http://www.russianorthodoxchurch.ws/synod/eng2009/8engethsemanestatement.html

Yes, there has been a serious controversy about the fragmentation of Saint Elizaveta relics. I tend to believe unofficial sources which says the controversy had place, as the official sources (and www.russianorthodoxchurch.ws is among them) rarely unfold the truth in such cases.

[Clemence]

does anyone know if the remains of her niece, princesse Alice of Greece, are still near those of the GDE?

sorry if this has been already answered elsewhere.

[holynewmartyr]

does anyone know if the remains of her niece, princesse Alice of Greece, are still near those of the GDE?

sorry if this has been already answered elsewhere.

Yes, her remains are still there.

[holynewmartyr]

Today, major relics (the shoulder bones) of Saints Elizabeth and Barbara were enshrined during the centenary celebration at the Martha and Mary connvent in Moscow.

You can see photos of the event here: http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/735159.html

[felix]

 I just returned from a vacation(volcano & all) to Greece & the Middle East. While in Jerusalem I was able to visit the Church of Mary Magdalene. It was an oasis in the middle of the city. The peace & tranquility one felt when entering was amazing.
 The Church's location & architecture seemed to over power everything around it. And viewing the remains of Elizabeth & Barbara, seeing the cedar crucifix she wore at the time of her death was humbling.

[Dominic_Albanese]

Felix - it was very nice of you to share the details of your visit.  Did you take any pictures?  Are there any good books (in english) on the site?  Again, thanks for sharing.

dca

[felix]

    Hello,


    I didn't see any books there. To tell the truth it was a little overwhelming. The City is busy & there's people every where. Then you turn down an ally & enter the Convent & suddenly it's quite & still & peaceful. The gardens are beautiful, big fat healthy cats are around.
And many visitors, mostly Eastern European.With guides. It's only open two days a week. It's just above the Garden of Gethsemane.
 My spelling on that may be wrong, but I think you'll know where I mean. There's no charge, just to buy candles. If you want.
They except donations. You cant imagine how impressive the site is.
  Also in the Church of the Holy Sepular(spelling?) all the icons in the Orthodox area were donated by the Russian Imperial Family,
and they are all  magnificent.

 F.

[felix]

  And yes I did take photo's, they let you take them of Elizabeth.

[holynewmartyr]

Here are two videos of Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill's recent visit to Alapaevsk including the mine shaft where Saints Elizabeth and Barbara were martyred: http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/1139966.html

[Marshall II]

Here is another picture I found of her grave
http://www.jerusalem-mission.org/images/gethsemane/relics.jpg

[sunbeam]

Some pictures from my visit to Jerusalem last year.
I did not know about the Romanovs or Ella at the time, I only recently discovered more about their history. So I was unaware of the significance of this beautifully looking church. In hindsight I feel glad to have been so close to that place and also glad that I and my partner took pictures.

[edubs31]

One of the brief notes I took at a recent Romanov seminar I attended...

- The Imperial Orthodox Russian society was created in Palestine in 1906. Traveling to the Holy Land became a far safer endeavor than it was only 15-20 years earlier.