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timfromengland

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part IV
« Reply #585 on: March 10, 2012, 01:02:05 PM »
Indeed. Yet both of her sisters were wedded to Italian Royals (Queen Maria Sofia of Naples & Countess Mathilde Trani).

There are so many similarities  to the life of  Maria Antoinette.... they both set off at a
very young age to marry very powerful ( and young )  European Sovreigns
..... they both had sisters  who  became  Queen of Naples !
They both died violent deaths...... many other parallels too.


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« Reply #586 on: March 10, 2012, 01:05:54 PM »
 
I was getting exhausted just reading about Elizabeth's endless travel...
England... Ireland.... Paris... Marseilles... Budapest... Triest... and thinking of  stagecoaches, bad roads...
but of course the rail networks were getting into place by
the mid 19th century.... it made all this endless travel a little easier !
(wonder if she travelled first class ? )

Eric_Lowe

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« Reply #587 on: March 10, 2012, 04:20:04 PM »
I think she has her own train and ship...I think that is better than first class.

timfromengland

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« Reply #588 on: March 11, 2012, 09:18:28 PM »
 Empress  Elizabeth at Haddon Hall Derbyshire



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« Reply #589 on: March 12, 2012, 09:43:08 AM »
I that looks more like a Spice girl that Sisi.  ;) ;) ;)

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part IV
« Reply #590 on: March 12, 2012, 01:34:43 PM »
I think she has her own train and ship...I think that is better than first class.

I read that when she was younger she used to travel in her own train in a very luxury way, with a lot of servants and with a lot of dresses for the whole trip. When she became older (mainly I think after the death of Rudolph) she used to travel in a more "modest" way, considering the last travel she did, seems that she went into a first class ship that wasn't hers (she was among other people). She also travelled on her own ship, or if I'm not wrong once Queen Victoria borrowed her one yacth (please correct me if I'm wrong!)

It seems  that the Empress  was quite a linguist too...
 


And don't forget that in later years she also learned Greek very well for reading her favorite books of classical authors in their original language. There's no doubt that she had skills for this, she didn't have (German) accent when she spoke Hungarian.

Empress  Elizabeth at Haddon Hall Derbyshire

Are you kidding? She has nothing on her, except the long hair!!! She looks more like a modern model or actress  :o :-\
By the way... who drew it?

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« Reply #591 on: March 15, 2012, 09:42:14 AM »
Yes. I think she borrowed the yacht "Victoria & Albert" when she was sick and need to travel to Mediera. The Austrian Imperial Family did not have luxurious royal yachts like their German, British and Russian counterparts.

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« Reply #592 on: March 15, 2012, 04:49:01 PM »
Mediera??????? where is that????? or do you mean Madeira???

Eric_Lowe

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« Reply #593 on: March 15, 2012, 05:25:31 PM »
Yes. I wrote too fast.

timfromengland

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« Reply #594 on: March 15, 2012, 07:31:11 PM »
Yes it seems strange reading  about the  " Austrian Navy  "  but  back then Austria was
an empire and not as it is today, landlocked like Switzerland.
 At the  time of the terrible defeats at the hands of Bismark and the Prussians,
they were having  military success in  Italy... even winning a naval skirmish ...
but that was little consolation to Austria   as  Prussia was emerging as a major world power
and was calling the shots.

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« Reply #595 on: March 16, 2012, 11:41:40 AM »
It was a mistake to be drawn into the German camp. Franz Josef made a grave error there, and Edward VII tried to draw Austria with the rest of Europe. Had Austria allied with Britain & France. Germany's aggression may have been forced to be contained. Emperor Karl & Empress Zita realized that and tried but failed to get a peaceful resolution to the War.

timfromengland

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« Reply #596 on: March 16, 2012, 01:13:09 PM »
From past reading I thought she had died on board that steamer, but I was wrong,
The steamer set off as  Eliz entourage were trying to get her back to her own doctor...
across the lake  at  Territet.
When the capt realised who she was he turned the steamer around and went back to Geneva.
They improvised a stretcher and took her back to the hotel, not far from the quayside.
She was still alive when they got back to the hotel.

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« Reply #597 on: March 16, 2012, 01:21:17 PM »
She fainted on board of the steamer, not much time after going into it, when the captain knew who was really the lady he preffered to make her to return to the hotel -he surely didn't want to have much responsibility- , she died there a pair of hours later (if I'm not wrong nearly to 2:00 pm).

timfromengland

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« Reply #598 on: March 16, 2012, 01:47:44 PM »

It was after 1 pm when Luigi  attacked.
The  capt  did set off on his journey, Eliz was taken to the upper deck  hoping the fresh air would revive her.
They began to panic when they opened her bodice and saw the blood and the wound.
They told the captain who she was and he  turned around and headed back to the  quay.
She must have died in the Hotel.... The Beau Rivage....
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« Reply #599 on: March 16, 2012, 07:47:32 PM »
I have just read that she lost consciousness when she was on board the ship, it had just set sailing, and once Countess Sztaray informed the captain of Elisabeth's identity, the ship turned back to Geneva, and once back in Geneva, was taken back to the hotel. It does sound like she died in the hotel, as I have read, that, as she was carried into the room, she took her final breaths. She was pronounced dead at roughly 2:10pm or so.



I believe that is her last photo...? Taken a day or so before her death.