Tatiana Photographs III

[SweetAngels]

Quite right it is Tatiana on the Polar Star.

[Condecontessa]

Sarushka, what is the title of the documentary that the screenshot came from?

And also, I don't think the screenshot was taken in January 1911 because the Imperial Family surely was back to Tsarskoe Selo by then.

[Sarushka]

Sarushka, what is the title of the documentary that the screenshot came from?

It's called Nikolai i Aleksandra. As far as I know, it's only available on VHS. I think I got it on RussianDVD.com, but I'm not sure if they're still selling it -- I always have a hard time finding it again when someone requests a link.

And also, I don't think the screenshot was taken in January 1911 because the Imperial Family surely was back to Tsarskoe Selo by then.

I don't know much about the IF's whereabouts for that year. Maybe someone with a copy of NII's diary can check for us.

[Lady Nikolaievna]

I love Tatian's look on this one! Sleepy Maria lying on her  and Tatiana is like "Oh, Lord, not again!" 

[Lady Nikolaievna]

*laughing* 

[Grand Duchess Valeria]

uhm...her waist is so slim...I really envy her 

[Sarushka]

I believe it was Gibbes who wrote that you could hardly find anyone so thin as Tatiana. (I'll double check the quote in House of Special Purpose when I get a minute.)

[blessOTMA]

Sarushka , I believe that was Gibbs and he also said TN had decided opinions, but you would never know her thoughts. Interesting distinction.
I love these two photos, taken early in the war.  It looks like the Tsar is trying to figure out how to work the captured German machine gun and in  the next photo, it looks like Tatiana is reading the instructions....the Governess at work! lol! She wearing the same blouse as in the previous photo, but it's bleached out by the evening sun.



 

[RealAnastasia]

Maybe she was wearing a corset.

Everyone wore a corset back then, even if they were thin. But she was REALLY thin and slender. Just look at her arms. When you wants to know if a lady was really thin or it was the corset, just look at her arms. Fat arms couldn't be disguised. The corset didn't make you look rhinner. It only shaped your waist in a fashinable way. Isabel II of Spain, and Mary of Teck's mother sure wore corsets too..But you couldn't said they were thin! 

Some girls would even sleep with corsets, just to "keep their waist on shape". The writer Laura Ingalls Wilder tell us in one of her "Little House books", that her mother adviced her daughters to sleep with corsets, to keep their figure nice. Laura couldn't bear it and wouldn't sleep with it, but of course her sister Mary did. So, her mother would said in a desperate voice: " God knows what your figure will be!"

Corsets were still in use in the middle of the 20's, but they were very different from the precedents. Thay were intended to make you look as smooth as a wooden table, so it didn't press your waist, but rather your chest.

RealAnastasia.

[nena]

I believe it was Gibbes who wrote that you could hardly find anyone so thin as Tatiana. (I'll double check the quote in House of Special Purpose when I get a minute.)

Yes, he was.

'You could hardly find anyone so thin' - recalled Gibbes on Tatiana. FOTR, pg. 48.

[bonbon823]

Ladies even wore corsets while pregnant!  Seems the height of stupidity to us but it was quite normal for them.

[RealAnastasia]

Some women still wear a kind of girdle even today. It's to shape better your figure. Some of them, are even recommended by doctors for specific physical problems. Even some men wears girdles for backside troubles and such. One of my grand-aunts who is only 76 years old, wore girdle since she was 35, to shape her body in a good way. However, she complained a lot about pespiring in summer.

Not all models of corsets would compress your ribs and organs together. It depends their shape. Corsets from 1880 to 1905, surely did. Later corsets wouldn't. Corsets from XVIII century were more little than the others and was mainly wore to shape your upper part of the body into a "V". It was the fashionable shape back then.

Hope this info could be useful.

RealAnastasia.

[Tsarevich Alexei fan13]

Great photos!
A minitaure painting based on a photo

Thank you for the painting! I was just wondering if that painting was copyrighted or not?

[Grand Duchess Valeria]

Are the other minatures posted in this forum or did they not exist?

[RealAnastasia]

Are the other minatures posted in this forum or did they not exist?

Yes, they are. They are posted one, by one, in each OTMA Forum. And there are two others in the Alix and Nicholas forums too. However, I think they were not dynamite. The most beatiful of them is Tatiana's image. I don't really care for the others. Their eyes are not well painted. I mean that their expressions seems to show that all of them had crossed eyes! 

RealAnastasia.