The Ducal Families of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg

[kmerov]

A portrait of Duchess Anna Caroline, last Duchess of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg Elder line. After her death in 1824, Glücksborg Castle was given to King Christian IX's father, Duke Wilhelm.

[Naslednik Norvezhskiy]

After her death in 1824, Glücksborg Castle was given to King Christian IX's father, Duke Wilhelm.

Instead of ending up as a Danish-French dukedom. See this post for details.

[kmerov]

Yes, thats an interesting story. Appearantly Decazes thought that the dowager duchess somehow could transfer the title and Castle to him, which of course she couldn't.

[Marc]

Thank you both for this story...never heard of this...is this portrait in a book about Schleswig-Holstein dukes?

[kmerov]

Yes, the portrait is from a Danish book about all the ducal branches of Schleswig-Holstein, "de slesvigske hertuger" by Carsten Porskrog Rasmussen.

[Marc]

While googling I found a portrait labeled as Prince Leopold von Schleswig-Holstein-Weisenburg...kmerov might know if it's really him:

[kmerov]

Wonderful portrait Marc, and it does look like him.

A stylistic illustration of a young Duke Leopold (1674-1744)

[Marc]

Thank you for answering...one step forward in researching those sidelines of this same family...To be frank,I never saw a portrait of anyone from Weisenburg part of the family,that's why I wasn't sure if it's labeled correctly,but now I am glad I contributed to the thread as much as I can and know

Kmerov and Fyodor know much more about these topics so it's very interesting to read all your posts about the family side that seemed to be very unknown and forgotten,so I am looking forward to any new post :-) 

[YaBB_Jose]

A portrait of Duchess Anna Caroline, last Duchess of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg Elder line. After her death in 1824, Glücksborg Castle was given to King Christian IX's father, Duke Wilhelm.

Who is this Anna Carolina ?

[Naslednik Norvezhskiy]

Who is this Anna Carolina ?

Anna Karoline (1751-1824), born a Princess of Nassau-Saarbrücken, married firstly in 1769 Duke Friedrich Heinrich of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg and having been widowed, secondly in 1782 Duke Friedrich Karl of Brunswick-Bevern, who had been Royal Danish Governor of Rendsburg and Copenhagen and was Danish General Field Marshall. She continued to live at Glücksburg with her second husband. Neither marriage produced children and both husbands were the last of their lines!

[YaBB_Jose]

Thank you

José

[Marc]

Very small portrait of Princess Maria Anna Leopoldine von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck...

http://www.geneall.net/img/pessoas/pes_17482.jpg

Is there any better version of this?

[Marc]

Yes, the portrait is from a Danish book about all the ducal branches of Schleswig-Holstein, "de slesvigske hertuger" by Carsten Porskrog Rasmussen.

I finally purchased THE book and it's wonderful,although I must be very concentrated to read it because it's in German...it would be great to have some more sources like that...thank you for pointing out to this book ;-)

[Naslednik Norvezhskiy]

Here is a German biographical article about Andreas Liliencron which concentrates on his role in the Oldenburg Succession case in great detail. But it's still not clear for me why Plön, the youngest branch of the Sonderburg lines, should be heirs along with the royal and Gottorf lines. Because they were the only of the Sonderburg lines with lands in Holstein, i.e. in the Empire, and thus more immediate than the other mere apanaged Sonderburg lines?

I think I found the answer in "Handbuch einer historisch-statistisch-geographischen Beschreibung des Herzogthums Oldenburg sammt der Erbherrschaft Iever, und der beiden Fürstenthümer Lübeck und Birkenfeld" by Ludwig Kohli, from 1824. Iquote from page 38:

"Mittlerweile war der Herzog Ioachim Ernst von Holstein=Plön, als
näherer Lehns-Agnat, mit seinen Ansprüchen an diese Grafschaften, von
welchen, als einem alten Reichslehn, er seine Vettern ganz
ausschließen zu können glaubte, öffentlich aufgetreten; wiederholte
nicht nur seine, schon 1656 beim kaiserl. Reichshofrath eingegebene,
auf die Cassation des zu Rendsburg (1649) geschlossenen
Oldenburgischen Erbfolgevergleichs gehende Klage, sondern trug auch,
mit Wiederholung seiner gegen die Dänisch=Gottorpische Besitznehmung
dieser Grafschaften zu Oldenburg eingelegten Protestation, darauf an,
daß alles wieder in den vorigen Stand gesetzt, und ihm, als nächsten
Agnaten, diese Grafschaften zuerkannt würden."

 It really is amazing that just because he was the last Oldenburger of his generation, i.e. great grandson of their common ancestor King Frederik I, Ernst Joachim could successfully protest against the heirs designated by Anton Günther II: King Frederik III, who was a great great grandson of Frederik I and Duke Christian Albrecht, who was a great great great grandson (all of course in the male line only.) This old non-lineal law of succession only applied to imperial fiefs like Oldenburg

[Marc]

One more member of Weisenburg branch...Eleonore who was Duchess of Gonzaga-Guastalla(1715-1760):