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RomanovMartyrs

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"Nicky dear, pass the Sweet N' Low."
« on: March 26, 2010, 04:18:13 PM »
I was reading about accidental inventions when I came across the story for artificial sweeteners. Here it is:

Saccharin, the oldest artificial sweetener, was accidentally discovered in 1879 by researcher Constantine Fahlberg, who was working at Johns Hopkins University in the laboratory of professor Ira Remsen. Fahlberg's discovery came after he forgot to wash his hands before lunch. He had spilled a chemical on his hands and it, in turn, caused the bread he ate to taste unusually sweet. In 1880, the two scientists jointly published the discovery, but in 1884, Fahlberg obtained a patent and began mass-producing saccharin without Remsen. The use of saccharin did not become widespread until sugar was rationed during World War I, and its popularity increased during the 1960s and 1970s with the manufacture of Sweet'N Low and diet soft drinks.

I thought this was interesting, and wondered at the possibility of the Romanovs using it?

It also leads me to wondering about other things we take to be modern. What seemingly-modern items could the Romanovs have used? For example, cellophane was invented before 1912, and in that year began being mass produced. So, post your suggestions here!

(This is ONLY for fun, and DOESN'T suggest [unless someone comes up with proof for any of it via sources] that the Romanovs actually used/had any of the items mentioned in this topic.)


abbigail

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Re: "Nicky dear, pass the Sweet N' Low."
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 08:13:06 PM »
Now that is really interesting! I wouldn't be surprised if they availed themselves of at least some of those new things (though I'm not sure about the saccharin because they wouldn't have had to worry about conservation or rationing of sugar). Regular sugar was probably a staple, and not a problem.

Also, since Russia was a country "backwards" in certain ways, maybe this hindered the use of the new items. But it'd be really interesting to find out. Great topic! :D

Anyone else's thoughts?

GrandDuchessAndrea

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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2010, 05:50:57 PM »
That is very interesting.
It reminds me of this book I read with interesting facts from each decade of the 1900s pointed out. One of them was that around 1910, the first toaster wasinvented, but it didn't have any sides, no metal covering the mechanisim. Also, adds for it suggested having a toaster in every room! Imagine having a toaster in your bedroom! Or, if one lived in a grand house, the library!
Perhaps the Romanovs used a mechanical toaster...? If they had one for every room in the palace, they'd have to get about 100 toasters for AP alone!  ;D

abbigail

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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2010, 06:28:44 PM »
Hmm...I wonder that also! I had no idea the toaster was invented so early; it seems more like a 40's-60's invention or something, for some reason.


Tasia

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2010, 06:34:35 PM »
Hehe! They weren't so modern, but I know that they had eletricity, elevator, cars (they were slow but nvm xD)...

GrandDuchessAndrea

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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 10:16:36 AM »
They had an elevator?! Where? In which palace?

Talking (or typing) of elevators reminds me of dumbwaiters, and I wonder if, even though it's very old fashioned, if the Romanovs had one. It would proably be out of use, but I can imagine OTMA, especially Anastasia, taking rides in it!  ;D

abbigail

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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 03:15:14 PM »
Oh, we have a dumbwaiter! I've definitely considered taking rides in it before :D but it's really much too frail for that.

Tasia

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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2010, 04:15:01 PM »
Andrea, IDK in which palace, but I've heard it twice!
Lol!!! Here on Brazil it isn't common for us to have dumbwaiters! hehe

GrandDuchessAndrea

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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2010, 02:52:32 PM »
Oh, we have a dumbwaiter! I've definitely considered taking rides in it before :D but it's really much too frail for that.

That is very neat, your house must be old. I would deliver things in it, or if I was upstairs and too tired to get something, I'd ask someone to send it up in the dumbwaiter!  ;D

abbigail

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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2010, 03:24:44 PM »
Unfortunately it makes this terrible groaning, screeching sound every time it's sent up or down, and this is magnified whenever something is placed on it. But we do use it for groceries and things...haven't had to carry those up the stairs for years! :P

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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2010, 03:38:21 PM »
Was the elevator not in the corridor of the AP outside the family rooms, now long gone and went to the first floor where the children resided? Somewhere on the site Bob mentions that coca-cola made it to the AP? We forget how long that has been around in one form or another. But we do not know if the drink actually made it to the imperial family.
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abbigail

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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2010, 09:42:49 PM »
That would be so cool! Just imagine! Thanks for bringing that up, Michael.

I've checked Wikipedia (ha) and ifound that Coca-Cola was first invented in some form or another by a surprisingly early year. I'm surprised!

"In 1886, when Atlanta and Fulton County passed prohibition legislation, Pemberton responded by developing Coca-Cola, essentially a non-alcoholic version of French Wine Cola. The first sales were at Jacob's Pharmacy in Atlanta, Georgia, on May 8, 1886. It was initially sold as a patent medicine for five cents a glass at soda fountains, which were popular in the United States at the time due to the belief that carbonated water was good for the health. Pemberton claimed Coca-Cola cured many diseases, including morphine addiction, dyspepsia, neurasthenia, headache, and impotence. Pemberton ran the first advertisement for the beverage on May 29 of the same year in the Atlanta Journal."

The rest of the article said nothing about it being imported to other countries, Russia included. Remember that Russia was "backward" in mant ways at the time so perhaps that's why it might not have reached the IF (or anyone else)?
Anyone else have info?







Tasia

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Re: "Nicky dear, pass the Sweet N' Low."
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2010, 07:22:02 AM »
Was the elevator not in the corridor of the AP outside the family rooms, now long gone and went to the first floor where the children resided? Somewhere on the site Bob mentions that coca-cola made it to the AP? We forget how long that has been around in one form or another. But we do not know if the drink actually made it to the imperial family.

WAAH! I don't know, Michael!!

Abbigail, I think that coca-cola was in Russia in that times ! But who knows !!
My mother said that Coca-cola without gas tasted medicine!

abbigail

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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2010, 07:32:12 AM »
It might have been. I really don't know.

Yeah I've heard that too, Tasia! Apparently it was also green before they added the caramel coloring.

Tasia

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2010, 09:35:20 AM »
Yew! o-o