Crimes Against Russia - Nicholas II + Family

[Belochka]

Perhaps one of the problems we are facing here is that many are unable to visualize how this "Court" will function in cyberspace.

After this first case perhaps there will be more interest expressed by others to participate in this "Court", should there be any further matters pending.

[Forum Admin]

Let me flesh this out then, since there is still confusion.
Instead of an actual court-room, the specific charge threads will be the "cyber court room".  I will post the "public record documents" of each side, just as in the trial folder. Everyone can read them, and the jury members will read them as well.
I will then write jury instructions in the thread for the jurors, who will then PM me with their verdicts.
Should they wish discussion prior to the verdict, I will identify the jurors to each other to deliberate VIA PM or email ONLY.

It really shouldnt be a big burden to anyone wanting to particiapte on any level...

[Alice]

Great idea Lisa for this thread.

I would love to hear what specific crimes against the Russian people that Nicholas would be accussed of.

What specific crimes? What crimes if any would you have Alexandra charged with?

As someone mentioned, Nicholas, as Autocrat of all Russias, could be considered responsible for the actions of his ministers, and also his army, which fired upon and killed many people on "Bloody Sunday" (just one example).

I don't think it's anything specific, more the fact that, as I said, he was Autocrat, and thus many considered him responsible for "atrocities" in Russia at the time.

Seeing as it was also Nicholas who declared war with Germany, he could also be considered responsible for all Russians that died in the war, not to mention being responsible for the lack of firearms and supplies for soldiers, which condemned many of them to their deaths.

As for Alexandra, in Bolshevik Russia, being German was enough to condemn her. But of course they'd find other "reasons" to execute her at the "trial".

What would you do with the children? Let them go, or also charge them with crimes against the Russian people?

Exile. (I'd try, anyway).

Frankly all this depends upon how much finger-pointing, and how cynical, one wants to be.

But if we need someone to bring forth more accusations, then I'm happy to be the on the prosecution. Say the word and I'll start digging for specifics.

[Forum Admin]

Please feel free to start. Richard is leading the prosecution team, so scroll up, read what he wrote, read the first charge filed, and coordinate your efforts with him via email and PM. Currently, January 10 is the deadline for all charges, although Richard is having some family emergencies at the moment, and I may want to postpone that deadline if need be to accomodate him..

FA

[Alice]

Thanks FA, will do.

[Belochka]

The Defense team will be more than happy to accommodate the Prosecution should an extension be required.

I will be unavailable until after 10 January.

[Forum Admin]

I have gotten word that Richard is still dealing with family issues. We extend our healtfelt sympathy and best wishes to his family during this difficult time.  Given these circumstances, I have agreed to exent a 30 day contuance for the deadline for filing all charges by the Prosecution, although should things resolve themselves earlier, I ask that the charges be filed when ready, if before the 30 days.

FA

[LisaDavidson]

Belochka and I join the FA in wishing Richard well.

[AGRBear]

Will there be people who will be playing the part as wittnesses?

Of course,  I realize all the "real" people are no longer living, but, some did leave letters etc. etc..  Or will this information be considered "heresay" and not admissible?

AGRBear

[Forum Admin]

There will be no "witnesses" as they are all frankly dead.  A first hand account would really be hearsay, but I will consider applications for admission of certain accounts as admissible evidence. Generally, I will permit  the accounts of a person of their own personal actions or their FIRST hand witnessing of events as admissible in this instance.  The accounts that " so and so told me" I think should be left out, but I will consider motions to consider.

[Belochka]

The Defense team is pleased to announce that we have been strengthed by the acceptance of a new member on our panel: James1941.  

[pushkina]

would all those who consider themselves members of the prosecution team IM me so that we can get progress reports?  thanks.

[Belochka]

Do we have a revised date listed for the cybercourt?

[Belochka]

The Defense team has just received instructions from our client Nikolai Alexandrovich (former Emperor of Russia) who is seeking to be informed whether any further charges are expected to be laid upon him. Secondly, will Nikolai Alexandrovich be the sole defendant?

Could the Prosecution please advise the Defense team of these matters?

Thank you,

Team for the Defense

[Forum Admin]

ummm, Belochka, lets stop channelling the dearly departed?  
Ouija board aside, Richard has simply disappeared with no word. Given what I know of the personal/family situation, I fear he has much to deal with at this time and understandably can not participate.  I have granted the prosecution a limited continuance to regroup and find additional help, as they are not without their lead.  Pushkina is travellng for work and will not be back for two weeks, so please be patient until sometime around the 15th or so.
Thanks.