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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part I
« Reply #480 on: December 31, 2007, 07:25:57 AM »
Last family picture reminds me one, witch I've seen in Brigitte Hamann's book about Crown Prince Rudolph. There was also little Marie Valerie, if I don't confuse it with any diferent book

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part I
« Reply #481 on: January 06, 2008, 06:03:04 AM »
Erzebet in Magyar dress :





Beautiful portrait of the new Queen of Hungary :


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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part I
« Reply #482 on: January 07, 2008, 03:02:11 AM »
Wonderful paintings, nice, thank you, KarlandZita! You always send the most wonderful pictures!  :)
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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part I
« Reply #483 on: January 13, 2008, 12:54:24 PM »
Elisabeth in 1867 in dress ball :



The mode of crinolines is coming to an end...
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« Reply #484 on: January 13, 2008, 10:43:20 PM »
I think the portrait was painted of Sisi as a very young girl. She kind of get either more bejelled or darkly dressed as she matures... ???

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part I
« Reply #485 on: January 19, 2008, 06:35:25 AM »
I think the portrait was painted of Sisi as a very young girl. She kind of get either more bejelled or darkly dressed as she matures... ???


My book on Elisabeth legend this portrait as well dating back to 1867 when the Empress is in her thirtieth year.

Now, in the case of a painting, the painter was able to voluntarily rejuvenate his august model.
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« Reply #486 on: January 26, 2008, 01:22:36 PM »
KarlandZita, thank you for the recent pictures. They are just wonderful, I enjoyed to see them. Especially the last with the family was new to me!
Greenowl, how strange with Sisis hair, I don't want to imagine what I would look like, if I washed my hair only once in three weeks... ;D

I'm trying to get my hair long again--there's been more than a few time's wanted to Sissi type hair length. That happens when a pic of her is not in my sight--When a Sissi pic is, pop up of two words:  No way

I forgot which book, website I got this from:  Sissi's hair was eleven pounds & she often suffered headaches.  I'm sure she didn't look forward to wearing ornate crowns.
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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part I
« Reply #487 on: April 09, 2008, 12:22:49 AM »
Over the years I've seen many of Elisabeth's portraits/photos. Is it just me or does anyone else think her features in the portraits vary a great deal? The famous Winterhalter ones for instance don't seem to resemble her photos very much, albeit being very well known. The portraits done after her engagement also had little in commone with her Hungarian coronation ones.

I haven't seen another royal's images change so much, be it Queen Alexandra of GB or Queen Marie of Romania. Theirs are very consistant.

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part I
« Reply #488 on: April 21, 2008, 03:40:39 AM »
Does anybody know where was buried the eldest daughter of Emperor Franz Joseph and Empress Elisabeth Archduchess Sophie?
They were buried in Imperial crypt near their son Rudolph. Marie Valerie was buried in Wallsee and Gisela in Munich (I pressume).
But where we can find Sophie? I suppose that somewhere in Imperial crypt as well. But where exactly? A least what I know she wasn't buried togather near
their parents. Or am I mistaken?
If somebody knows answer, it would be brilliant to let me know...

Thanks!

                 Susan

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« Reply #489 on: April 21, 2008, 05:05:11 AM »
 Ferdinand's Vault holds Sophie in the below Southeast pier along with  others. Her Parents are buried in Franz Joseph's Vault. For a listing of the layout and the burial places of the various Hapsburg's see below link:

By 1908 the seven vaults of the crypt already held 129 bodies, plus the heart urns of another 3 persons. In that year the Franz Josephs Gruft was built, along with the adjacent Chapel, as part of the celebrations of Emperor Franz Josef's142 60 years on the throne. The vault is usually entered from the north wall in the rear, through the southeast door of the New Vault.

From the foot of the tombs, left to right:
Franz Joseph's Vault, showing the pedestal of the stone tomb of Emperor Franz Josef, flanked by wife Elisabeth and son Rudolf.


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      143 Empress Elisabeth of Bavaria ("Sissi") (1837 - 1898) →Family Tree Wife of Emperor Franz Joseph.142

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      142 Emperor Franz Josef (1830 - 1916) →Family Tree Son of Archduke Franz Karl.135

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      144 Archduke Rudolf (1858 - 1889) →Family Tree Son of Emperor Franz Joseph.142

Turning around from the foot of the tombs, the doorway on the south wall of this vault leads into the Crypt Chapel.


Ferdinand's Vault

The Ferdinandsgruft was built in 1842, along with the Tuscan Vault, in conjunction with the reconstruction of the monastery above. Although the visitor sees an almost-empty room with only two sarcophagi, this vault actually contains one-fourth of the Imperial Crypt's entire population, walled-up into the corner piers.



Within the southeast pier:

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      73 Archduchess Maria Antonia (1858 - 1883) →Family Tree Daughter of Grand Duke Ferdinand IV of Tuscany.108 Died at 25.

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      74 Archduchess Maria Anna (1835 - 1840) →Family Tree Daughter of Archduke Franz Karl135 and Sophie of Bavaria,137 sister of Emperor Franz Joseph142 Died at 5.

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      75 Archduchess Maria Karolina (1821 - 1844) →Family Tree Daughter of Archduke Rainerx783 and Princess Elisabeth of Savoy. Died at 23.

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      76 Archduke Ferdinand Salvator (1888 - 1891) →Family Tree Son of Archduke Karl Salvator90 and Maria Immakulata.89 Died at 3.

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      77 Archduke Rainer Salvator (1880 - 1889) →Family Tree Son of Archduke Karl Salvator90 and Maria Immakulata.89 Died at 9.

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      78 Archduchess Sophie Friederike (1855 - 1857) →Family Tree Daughter of Emperor Franz Joseph142 and Empress Elisabeth (Sisi)143 Died at 2.

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      79 Archduchess Karoline Ferdinanda (1793 - 1802) →Family Tree Daughter of Ferdinand III, Grand Duke of Tuscanyx769 and Luisa Maria Amelia Teresa of Naples.84a Died at 9. Her heart is buried in the Herzgruft in the Augustinerkirche.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Crypt_Vaults
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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part I
« Reply #490 on: April 21, 2008, 02:22:12 PM »
When Sophie died in 1857, her little tomb was placed next to the one of her aunt Archduchess Maria Anna (1835-1840), who was the only sister of Franz Joseph. After the so-called "Franz Josephs Gruft" - this part of the crypt where the tombs of Franz Joseph, Elisabeth and their son Rudolf can be found today - had been finished, Sophie's tomb was brought there. It was placed behind the tomb of her father, right there where you can enter the "Neue Gruft" today. Since the 1960s, Sophie's tomb is in a niche of the "Ferdinands Gruft". So you can't see it anymore. But there is a memorial plate on the wall which says "Sophie Friederike 1855-1857".
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« Reply #491 on: April 21, 2008, 02:27:34 PM »
They were buried in Imperial crypt near their son Rudolph. Marie Valerie was buried in Wallsee and Gisela in Munich (I pressume).

Gisela was laid to rest in the crypt of St. Michael, Munich. Her tomb was placed in a niche of a room which isn't open to the public. But if you are very kind to the old man at the entrance, you might have a look into this room. ;-)
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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part I
« Reply #492 on: April 22, 2008, 07:17:10 AM »
Thank you both a lot for all information! :)

Are here any photos of her memorial plate available?

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part I
« Reply #493 on: April 24, 2008, 11:09:01 AM »
Does anybody know where was buried the eldest daughter of Emperor Franz Joseph and Empress Elisabeth Archduchess Sophie?
They were buried in Imperial crypt near their son Rudolph. Marie Valerie was buried in Wallsee and Gisela in Munich (I pressume).
But where we can find Sophie? I suppose that somewhere in Imperial crypt as well. But where exactly? A least what I know she wasn't buried togather near
their parents. Or am I mistaken?
If somebody knows answer, it would be brilliant to let me know...

Thanks!

                 Susan

The Sophie Friederike's grave (number 78 b) is in Ferdinandgruft, Kapuzinergruft, Vienna

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Re: Empress Elisabeth, Part I
« Reply #494 on: April 24, 2008, 03:44:52 PM »