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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #60 on: October 27, 2010, 03:29:00 PM »
I don't think so. Marie would have loved her the same.

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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #61 on: November 02, 2010, 06:32:45 PM »
I don't think so. Marie would have loved her the same.

I agree. And they both were devastated when little Christina died.
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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2010, 04:06:28 PM »
Indeed. They left Rome soon after that. I did not know where Maria Sofia lived when she was in Munich ? Did she bought a house there or live with her brother Karl Theodor ?

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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #63 on: November 11, 2010, 04:03:58 PM »
Indeed. They left Rome soon after that. I did not know where Maria Sofia lived when she was in Munich ? Did she bought a house there or live with her brother Karl Theodor ?

I read that she stayed with her sister-in-law Marie José at the Maxplais. Later she had an apartment somewhere at the Karlsplatz (also called Stachus) in Munich.
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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2010, 12:27:42 PM »
Really ? Thanks for the info. Because Mathilde Trani, her sister also lived in Munich, I wonder if they lived close by ? They died in the same year.

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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2010, 01:36:21 PM »
I will have a closer look into my books this weekend, Eric. But as far as I remember Marie didn't live with Mathilde, but they met regularly.
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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #66 on: November 15, 2010, 01:14:36 PM »
I thought so too. I don't know if the old Gotha have their last addresses in Munich. Would love to know if the apartments still exists ?

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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2010, 10:42:54 AM »
Eric, this is what I have:

Marie Redwitz, Duchess Marie José's lady-in-waiting, wrote in her book "Hofchronik":

1919. The Queen of Naples has also returned to her parents' house and lived, just like the Duchess (= Marie José) herself, on the second floor.

Arrigo Petacco ("Die Helden von Gaeta") quotes an interview Marie gave an Italian journalist called Ansaldo in November 1924. By then, Marie was still living in the Maxpalais. Petacco knows that she was her nephew Ludwig Wilhelm's guest. It's quite strange to imagine that the former Queen and the Reichsbank (today Deutsche Bank) had to live under one roof.

One of Marie's servants, Mr. Barcellona, said in 1923: Every evening at 5 o'clock the Queen's sister, the Duchess of Trani, comes here (= Maxpalais) to have tea with the Queen. The Duchess lives in the hotel "Vier Jahreszeiten" in the Maximilianstraße. Then I usually read aloud from the newspapers, because the Duchess of Trani, although she is younger than the Queen, isn't able to read without her glasses. The Duchess of Trani is 80 years old. The Queen says that their conversations are gloomy. Then the Queen always accompanies her sister to the hotel, which is quite far away, because it's dark when she leaves and something could happen to her.
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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #68 on: November 22, 2010, 08:20:51 AM »
Thanks for this information ! It gives a clear picture of the location, place and how the lives of the sisters were ! Thank you very much !  ;) ;) ;)

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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #69 on: December 05, 2010, 03:43:18 PM »


 

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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #70 on: December 06, 2010, 09:21:25 AM »
Marie as a young woman. She was very much like Sisi in her looks.  ;)

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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #71 on: January 28, 2011, 06:39:23 AM »


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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2011, 06:54:33 AM »
its on sale on ebay currently ;-D

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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2011, 07:10:06 AM »
How beautiful!!:X gorgeous gown!: )

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Re: Queen Maria Sophia of Two-Sicilies,nee Duchess in Bavaria , Part II
« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2011, 12:55:29 PM »
It was, Katenka. Got sold already. But to a prize where I have to pass lol
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