Author Topic: Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein (1846-1921), and her family, Part II  (Read 51399 times)

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No that's right gdella! Remember the story in Marie Louise's memoirs when her sister asked Queen Victoria if she might play tennis, QV agreed but stipulated that as it is a Sunday they must collect the balls themselves, as it's not right to make someone work for there enjoyment!

I just love this story!

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Agreed! What a wonderful and thoughtful way to think!!
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Today I purchased the book "Cumberland Lodge" by Helen Hudson. It has some interesting photos of there family I had never seen before & there interesting rooms too!
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This is the most wonderful state-portrait I ever saw of Princess Helena-Victoria and I'm so happy to share it with you. It's from the Chicago Tribune from 1937.

Just look at that elegance and the beautiful jewelry. Finally a clear picture of 'Thora' with her tiara and other jewelry. I just love the pearls, the fur and the lovely brooch. So don't tell me the woman wasn't every inch a princess. Was this the tiara that was inherited by Lady Patricia Ramsay? I think this portrait was taken in connection with the coronation of 1937.

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This is the most wonderful state-portrait I ever saw of Princess Helena-Victoria and I'm so happy to share it with you. It's from the Chicago Tribune from 1937.

Just look at that elegance and the beautiful jewelry. Finally a clear picture of 'Thora' with her tiara and other jewelry. I just love the pearls, the fur and the lovely brooch. So don't tell me the woman wasn't every inch a princess. Was this the tiara that was inherited by Lady Patricia Ramsay? I think this portrait was taken in connection with the coronation of 1937.
The tiara was the one later worn by sister Marie Louise (as was the art deco diamond and pearl brooch)and then by Patricia Ramsay after whose death in 1972 it was auctioned.

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Thanks for posting the pictures of Helena Victoria and Marie-Louise. I had read they were keen sports-women but never seen pictures that
show them in action.

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Lovely picture! Thank you RN. I wonder if the tiara belonged to there mother originally?
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Collage of Princess Marie Louise as La Paiva:


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Princess Marie Louise on her wedding day:

http://www.aic.pt/_snippets/previewimage/index.cfm?imgid=42392013

Anyone's guess who are the others?

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According to Marie Louise's memoirs she had six bridesmaids, Edith Ward, Lady Elizabeth Dawson, Lady Esther Gore, Lady Beatrice Egerton, Lady Beatrice Bridgeman and Lady Sophie Cadogan . As only five are shown here not sure who is who.

They wore off-white silk dresses and wore wreaths of Marechal ney roses in their hair and carried shower boquests of the same roses.

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According to Marie Louise's memoirs she had six bridesmaids, Edith Ward, Lady Elizabeth Dawson, Lady Esther Gore, Lady Beatrice Egerton, Lady Beatrice Bridgeman and Lady Sophie Cadogan . As only five are shown here not sure who is who.

They wore off-white silk dresses and wore wreaths of Marechal ney roses in their hair and carried shower boquests of the same roses.

The profile of a sixth bridesmaid is lurking behind the first bridesmaid on the left at the back.  But it doesn't make it easier since even if there were lots of photos of the bridesmaids around to compare, judging by Marie Louise's image, the likenesses would be highly idealised and bear little resemblance to the originals!  I suspect that the illustrator had some problems of knowing what they looked like as well, since one of the bridesmaids has her back to the viewer and there is just a shadowy profile for another.

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According to Marie Louise's memoirs she had six bridesmaids, Edith Ward, Lady Elizabeth Dawson, Lady Esther Gore, Lady Beatrice Egerton, Lady Beatrice Bridgeman and Lady Sophie Cadogan . As only five are shown here not sure who is who.

They wore off-white silk dresses and wore wreaths of Marechal ney roses in their hair and carried shower boquests of the same roses.

Thank you,interesting find...I didn't know their names!

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Here are a couple of portraits, the first of Lady Beatrice Bridgeman, who married Colonel Ernest Pretyman:



And this is Lady Sophie Cadogan, who married Sir Samuel Scott (and ran away from him, after a quarrel, some years after their marriage.  But unlike Marie-Louise and Aribert, they were reconciled):



I honestly can't match up either of these ladies with any of Marie-Louise's attendants in the picture however!

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The young Schleswig-Holsteiners

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I love the last two, and also the tiny painting. Anyone have it bigger? (I mean the one with all of Victoria's daughters except Beatrice.)
Here you go:
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/3-1.jpg

One that was posted, but bigger, I think:
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/1-4.jpg

Little Lenchen:
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/PieceOfLivingHistory/2-1.jpg

I have heard that Helena wasn't as close to Louise as is made out, and that they were lumped together by age. Is there any evidence of this or is it just a rumor?
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