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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #75 on: November 04, 2005, 12:48:45 AM »
I know that it is still an issue within the Hohenzollern family. There have been recent court cases in Germany about whether it is possible for Hohenzollerns to disinherit family members who marry morganatically.
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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #76 on: November 04, 2005, 08:01:55 AM »
Yes, I heard that too Bell. :-/

BTW, out of curiousity, Margaret was a 'the Hon' wasn't she? Which British noble family was she a scion of?
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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #77 on: November 04, 2005, 08:45:54 AM »
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Yes, I heard that too Bell. :-/

BTW, out of curiousity, Margaret was a 'the Hon' wasn't she? Which British noble family was she a scion of?


Her father was Auckland Campbell Geddes, 1st Baron Geddes of Rolvenden - so it wasn't an ancient line!

In fact the title was only created in 1942 for Auckland (according to Wikipedia!), who was a conservative politician and former Ambassador to the US.
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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #78 on: November 04, 2005, 08:53:13 AM »
Thanks Bell.  :)
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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #79 on: November 04, 2005, 12:30:37 PM »
I totally agree that morganetic marriages are out of tune with the times.

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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #80 on: November 04, 2005, 08:02:33 PM »

I find it interesting that one of Margaret's brothers, Alexander Geddes, also married into German royalty.  He married HSH Princess Marie-Anne of Salm-Reiffersheidt.

Does anyone know anything about this couple?
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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #81 on: November 05, 2005, 03:24:36 AM »
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You should check this link out:
http://members3.boardhost.com/germanaustrian/msg/27607.html


Thanks grandduchessella!

I don't know what the situation in the US is, but in Germany you can't completely disinherit your children. They automatically receive a percentage of your estate ("Pflichtanteil"). They're have been cases fought in the courts were people serving life sentences for murdering their parents have successfully claimed their "Pflichtanteil".

While I don't agree with the "Pflichtanteil" system - in the UK you can leave your money to whomever you want -I don't see why there should be an exception for former ruling houses on the absurd question of morganatic marriages!
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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #82 on: April 20, 2006, 11:59:28 AM »
I would say that by then, the rules about morgantic marriages didn't apply so much, at least in Hesse-Darmstadt, and it is correct to point out that Onor, although royalty, was very minor royalty by the standards of Hesse marriages before World War I.  It is unfortunate they had no children, but I suppose one reason why he married someone who could be considered so low ranking, was because he wasn't the heir. The Hesse family, had there been descendants would have strengthed their blood ties in England further if the heirs of Hesse had Margaret's blood.

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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #83 on: April 20, 2006, 12:11:38 PM »
I agree with everyone who posted about the tragedies of the Hesse family, the plane crash, and then little Johanna dying, yet another little Hessian Princess who died about that age. I am sure Louis and Margaret tried to be good substitues for parents to her, and were devastated when she died. Then they never had children, so it would have been perfect if Johanna had lived, as their adopted child, and the Hessian heir. Could the line have passed down through her, had she lived, according to Succesion laws? Margaret seems to have been a very nice and interesting woman, after reading this thread. She and her husband certainly saw many tragedies of the family.

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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #84 on: December 20, 2006, 03:57:13 PM »
I think this picture has not been posted:
Margaret and little Johanna:


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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #85 on: September 12, 2008, 07:08:12 AM »
Louis:



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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #86 on: September 12, 2008, 07:13:34 AM »
Ludwig and Margaret:



Margaret:

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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #87 on: September 12, 2008, 07:16:17 AM »
Ludwig and Margaret With the daughter of George:


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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #88 on: September 12, 2008, 12:58:00 PM »
Nice pics of Loo, Peg & Johanna. She died too soon. She would have been a beautiful Princess (like her mother) and head of her house.

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Re: Prince Ludwig & Margaret Geddes
« Reply #89 on: September 12, 2008, 07:44:07 PM »
Alexandre64,
thanks for posting the pictures of Lu and Peg of Hesse and little Johanna. They were a nice little family and it's sad that Johanna died so young.
Lu and Peg would have been good parents to her.

It's also sad that they had no children of théir own for both liked children very much and got along with children. Whether it's the Prince of Wales and his siblings or Landgraf Moritz of Hesse and his brothers or the children of Prince Christoph of Hesse and Sophie of Greece they all liked them and felt comfort and understood by them.