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kmerov

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #105 on: March 11, 2009, 06:41:08 PM »
The youngest daughters, Thyra and Dagmar, were under strong supervision by Queen Louise long after they reached adulthood.
Maria Feodorovna writes in 1922,
"Thyra, Dagmar and Gustav came to tea. The poor things had finally been to a ball at the residence of the American Minister and had a wonderful time until 4 o'clock in the morning. Before they go, they must show themselves en toilette for Louise in long, oldfashioned dresses, but then they have arranged their dresses in such a way that they button the skirt up so that the dresses become short, so they say that they look quite modern. Those poor children, their lives are really terrible boring and now their youth is almost gone, Thyra is 42, you know, and little Dagmar will be 32 in a few days. They do have permission to walk alone in the street and visit their friends, otherwise nothing".

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #106 on: March 11, 2009, 06:51:37 PM »
Princess Thyra in her room at Charlottenlund Palace.



alixaannencova

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #107 on: March 11, 2009, 08:48:31 PM »
Goodness me... Aunt Swan sounds like she really was an uber cow of the first degree!!!!(Cliche cliche I know but....I couldn't resist!) Thank you Kmerov for sharing that wonderful tale of how Minnie felt about the plight of her nieces, I think that it would be fascinating to hear what Minnie thought of Alix's purported domination of Toria!!!!! Just for comparison!






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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #108 on: March 12, 2009, 01:14:01 AM »
Goodness me... Aunt Swan sounds like she really was an uber cow of the first degree!!!!(Cliche cliche I know but....I couldn't resist!) Thank you Kmerov for sharing that wonderful tale of how Minnie felt about the plight of her nieces, I think that it would be fascinating to hear what Minnie thought of Alix's purported domination of Toria!!!!! Just for comparison!

Looking at the history of the Dowager Empress Maria's treatment of her children, and of their marriage choices, her criticism of her sister-in-law is pretty hypocritical.  Tho I guess that's just human nature. JMHO

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Eric_Lowe

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #109 on: March 12, 2009, 12:19:18 PM »
Well we can say it is a Glucksborg Family tradition ?

PrinceEddy1864

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #110 on: March 12, 2009, 12:51:31 PM »
Maybe that is why the match never flew. Little research had been done on the daughters of Frederick VIII. Coryne Hall did an artilcle on them...that was about it.

Eugene was a homosexual or "rumored to be."

I love this photo with his older brothers. So unique looking,



SORRY OFF TOPIC.

That is a great image of Thyra kmerov! The oddest looking of the sisters i think.



Eric_Lowe

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #111 on: March 12, 2009, 03:17:58 PM »
I heard she had a good nature too like her namesake...

kmerov

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« Reply #112 on: March 13, 2009, 03:14:11 PM »
Yes, she did, and she ended her life as yet another sweet and gentle aunt to the family.

It also seems that Thyra suffered from some real frustrations, whether the cause of it was Queen Lovisa, or something else.
Another letter from MF to Alexandra in 1920,
" Poor little Thyra has been lying down for over a week, as she has been suffering from a big sore on her leg. Everyone else maintains that it is she herself that is scratching it to keep it open, so that the doctor now wants to keep her in bed and has bound her leg in a firm bandage that she cannot take off, and really since that day her leg is quite in order, the sore healed. But in order that she may not find it too pleasant to remain in bed, she is not allowed to receive visitors, so thats she may be thoroughly bored, for otherwise there is the risk that she might become like the little girl Lotte at Sandringham, who also lay down and maintained that she could not walk.  It is a kind of hysteria which we, thank God, do not suffer from. The doctor.....says she ought to be placed in a sanatorium and undergo proper treatment, but that would attract to much attention and it would immediately be said that se was mad.....It is her idée fixe that everyone is against her, which of course shows that it all comes from her nerves. I hope that when she gets up she will see that she dare not fiddle with her leg and will no longer fill herself with medicine, which she was doing as well, for there is fundamentally nothing wrong with her except this artificial sore on her leg, which has now ben there for eighteen months after she had the same on her arm, and that ended in gangrene......"

alixaannencova

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #113 on: March 13, 2009, 04:14:28 PM »
How absolutely fascinating Kmerov...thank you very much!

I never knew that Thyra self harmed!! She must have been so unhappy! The comparisons to Toria are too easy to resist making in this as Toria suffered some form of a breakdown too! In Toria's case nothing further is known to date about the degree, substance or even the veracity of her condition! I do not know if there is evidence that Toria was suspected of self harming, though her physician thought her a hypochondriac!

Poor Thyra though, goodness what a life she must have endured to make her so unhappy...tragic!

Eric_Lowe

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« Reply #114 on: March 14, 2009, 02:36:16 PM »
Yes...however I heard that she was a beloved aunt to the royal children. Poor Toria was not so lucky, being called "bitch of the first order" by her nephew, The Duke of Windsor.

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #115 on: March 15, 2009, 10:28:09 AM »
Ingeborg, Louise and Thyra :



Ingeborg :





Dagmar :

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Eric_Lowe

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #116 on: March 15, 2009, 06:27:54 PM »
They were not as beautiful as their aunts, maybe because of swan's lack of charm ?

paola

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #117 on: March 16, 2009, 01:43:31 AM »
Could be that they inherited  their mother plain looks. Still Ingeborg was the prettier I think. She was later mother of three lovely Princesses.

Eric_Lowe

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #118 on: March 16, 2009, 10:38:16 AM »
Yes Ingaborg was the pretty one here, I think she looked a bit like her cousin Maud of Wales.

PrinceEddy1864

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Re: Daughters of Frederick VIII & Queen Louise
« Reply #119 on: March 17, 2009, 04:52:08 PM »
yeah, I have always had this strange fascination with Ingeborg!! Shes not really pretty but there is just something about her.

I think she looks quite lovely in these..


She seems to be smiling in sooo many of her pictures.


I love that.