Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV

[Eric_Lowe]

I wonder what happen to all Ella's art work in Russia ?

[larri*]

Ella with Tsar Alexander III, Sergei and Misha in late 1880's:

[Svetabel]

Ella with Tsar Alexander III, Sergei and Misha in late 1880's:

That's August 1888, when Alexander III with Mikhail were in Ilinskoe.

[Eric_Lowe]

I do wonder who often the imperial family (Tsar Alexander III's family) visit Serge. Minny seem to have a love/hate relationship with Ella.

[Svetabel]

A portrait of the GDss - on the wall in drawing-room of Oak-Hill - residence of GDss Maria Pavlovna-younger in Sweden



I'd say one more reproduction of the famous photo-session of Elizaveta F.

[Svetabel]

I do wonder who often the imperial family (Tsar Alexander III's family) visit Serge. Minny seem to have a love/hate relationship with Ella.

I think Maria F. never visited Ilinskoe during her husband's reign. Alexander III was in Ilinskoe  only once (August 1888). But the Imperial Family visited Moscow 2 or 3 times (1893 year for sure - it was 10th jubilee of Alexander's coronation).

[Eric_Lowe]

I think that proves that Minny's relationship was not particular warm. Since Ilinskoe was the constant meeting place of Ella's family (including Irene, Victoria & Alix). As for Oakhill (is it still stands today ?), the picture stands as a testament to Maria's love/hate relationship with Ella. 

[Svetabel]

Oak-Hill is still on its place, now it's Italian Embassy in Stockholm.

[Eric_Lowe]

Thanks for the information. I guess Prince Lennart did not get it.

[grandduchessella]

Thanks for the information. I guess Prince Lennart did not get it.

From the thread on Oak Hill:

That´s the place! I had to refresh my memory and consult my litterature...
Prince Wilhelm (brother to Gustav Adolf, king 1950-73, who was married to 1. Margaret of Connaught and 2. Louise Mountbatten) was more or less forced into marriage with Maria Pavlovna in 1908. First they lived at the somewhat gloomy Royal Palace in Stockholm, but a considerable gift from aunt Ella made it possible for the young couple to build their own home on a rocky piece of land on the Royal Djurgarden, a picturesque city centre island used for recreation, museums and elegant villas. The architect of the day, Ferdinand Boberg designed a large stuccoed villa in his characteristic style - mediterranenan elegance combined with art nouveau ornaments. Father Peter Rumjantsev, head of the Orthodox church in Stockholm, held an opening ceremony on April 1, 1910.
Maria Pavlovna used to slide down the stairs on a silver tray, which chocked the stuffy old courtiers, but they let "the dear little child" do it anyway... The marriage was never happy, and in 1914 W and MP were divorced. Oakhill was sublet to the US consul in the 1920´s, and around 1930 (forgot the exact year) Wilhelm sold it to the Italian government.

[Eric_Lowe]

Thanks for the information. I always think Ella tried to do the best for Maria, but she chose her own road.

[GrandDuchessIzabella]

Ella in court dress:
http://www.romanovrussia.com/phel1.jpg
from romanovrussia

[Eric_Lowe]

Wearing her favorite emeralds. 

[LauraO]

Do we know why MF and ella didn't have a very warm relationship, Marie's dislike for Alix has its obvious reasons, but why did she dislike ella?

[Svetabel]

Do we know why MF and ella didn't have a very warm relationship, Marie's dislike for Alix has its obvious reasons, but why did she dislike ella?

We discussed this question many times I think. MF was outraged with GD Sergei's and Ella role in the relationship of Nicholas and Alix. The Empress hated when someone meddled in her family affairs - she was a possessive mother and considered her children her own property and didn't need mediators. That's why her relationship with Elizaveta became more cool after 1893 year.