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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
« Reply #75 on: April 26, 2011, 08:01:23 AM »
I thought that Ella pictures were very popular, since there are not too many

He just answered me...he said he thought it was alix but still he changed the name of the auction and FINALLY  tagged it as Ella *0* and even posted  the message i sent.

cool!
Being experts sometimes can give some satisfaction, doesn't it?  :D

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
« Reply #76 on: April 26, 2011, 01:35:43 PM »
Hi Sunny,

Yes, I know and you know that Ella was murdered too (along with many others) but:
most of the general public does not know that nor even who Ella was.
That was my point.

A lot of people know about Alexandra and she was an Empress;  more people are interested in an Empress than a Grand Duchess.  Just as most are intersted in Queen Marie Antoinette being executed and not many know about the others.

Larry

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
« Reply #77 on: April 26, 2011, 03:59:59 PM »
 
Hi Sunny,

Yes, I know and you know that Ella was murdered too (along with many others) but:
most of the general public does not know that nor even who Ella was.
That was my point.

A lot of people know about Alexandra and she was an Empress;  more people are interested in an Empress than a Grand Duchess.  Just as most are intersted in Queen Marie Antoinette being executed and not many know about the others.

Larry

Of course I'm whit you! Didn't i manage to explain myself? I am sure on E bay they're interested to make people believe it is Alix, just beacause it would attract more customers!
I'm sorry if i didn't explain... I think the same as you

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
« Reply #78 on: April 26, 2011, 09:55:08 PM »
I thought that Ella pictures were very popular, since there are not too many
That 's what I thought.  Why not label it correctly? Ella has quite a few fans too!   

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« Reply #79 on: April 28, 2011, 06:50:07 AM »
I thought that Ella pictures were very popular, since there are not too many
That 's what I thought.  Why not label it correctly? Ella has quite a few fans too!   

I think Vecchiolarry has explained the most suitable POV for it, even if I'm with you and think it's odd.

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
« Reply #80 on: May 05, 2011, 08:58:56 AM »
I found this postcard as Iolanthe by Gdss Elisabeth Feodorovna , published by St.Eugenie Red Cross Society , Russia

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
« Reply #81 on: May 05, 2011, 09:31:08 PM »
Amazing..I wonder if that's  from some theatrical  production... the costume looks like Shakespeare . Thanks for posting!

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
« Reply #82 on: May 06, 2011, 04:06:37 AM »
it's a very art nouveau postcard by her.  I wonder if she did a series of them...It's a great find.


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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2011, 11:52:32 AM »
I didn't know she was an artist! It looks kind of like batik, even though it isn't. I wonder if she did it before or after she became a nun.

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
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« Reply #85 on: May 11, 2011, 07:05:31 AM »
Of course it is, for me at least... thank you!

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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
« Reply #86 on: May 11, 2011, 09:37:55 AM »
I think that is new on the forum:

http://www.mmom.ru/common/upload/zamuzhestvo079.jpg

I believe that one comes from the Christopher Warwick bio on Ella--a very good book, BTW.
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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
« Reply #87 on: May 11, 2011, 11:11:19 PM »
I've seen it before, but not in a so extremely good quality. Congrats for finding it!

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A little girl called "Ella"- intriguing! :)
« Reply #88 on: May 14, 2011, 10:07:56 AM »
Well, first of all maybe you will call me crazy and say "Nadeshda, just wants to come up with something great!", but I do not want to make myself important, cause when I noticed this with my mum and Grandmother we were pretty astonished.
See his link here:
http://www.jcosmas.com/cdvs2.html

The first CDV is titled "Princess Elisabeth of Hesse and by Rhine", known as "Ella". It is sold now. But this girl not Ella. Her name was actually Rachel Kisch, her father was selling fabrics, like silk, fine fabrics and the family was of Jewish origine, mainly having their residence in Czechoslovakia, Prague, but they had relatives in Hamburg and Darmstadt. Rachel was the youngest of five children, and wa sent to the relatives at Darmstadt for a while, after her mother started to suffer from a muscle disease- I do not know the English term for it, but people die of it. Rachel was the baby of the family, her sibling were older than her. The photo shows her in 1875- special about her was her blonde hair, as it was a saying in the family "Who did place the blonde baby in the storch`s nest?" to her mother, when they saw Rachel- (in Germany parents tell their little children that babys are brought by a storch or they do grow in cabbages! :) ). Why do I know? Because my Grandmother is a niece of the famous German author Egon Erwin Kisch and we have done much family research when they wanted to close the Egon Erwin Kisch- House in East Berlin in (if I remember it right) 1992. My mother and I have been there and decided to find more about the family tree/part, as my Grandmother does not imagine so much about her uncle, who visited the family very often. But we could find something about Rachel in the family books, documents. And the same photo like shown on this webpage.
So I wonder now who did mix it up with Ella and who is the poor one who bought it. It s a nice collectors piece if you collect something about Kischs family- but it s not Ella.
I ve tried to contact the administrator of the webpage, but he does not reply to my emails.

Hope you do not think that I would be the one with the raised finger here, but it s just funny to find that photo- Rachel would have been thankful to have been  a Royal person! :)


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Re: Grand Duchess Elizaveta - discussion and pictures PART IV
« Reply #89 on: May 22, 2011, 01:47:17 PM »
With Victoria:

With her parents and sisters Victoria and Irene: