Question about and/or Help with Picture(s)

[Svetabel]

Thank you,Courtney! I can always count on you!
Do you have any idea about 2 men at the far left?  Saxe-Coburgs?

[grandduchessella]

The older man--Philip of Coburg? The young Albert of Schleswig-Holstein? He would've been related to not just Charlie but also Victoria Adelheid (born a princess of S-H) and he was living in Germany by then I think. I think he was too balding though.

[PrinceEddy1864]

This is a really interesting photo Sveta. I guess it was taken at Calma's christening? Does anyone have any idea why Baby Bee was there? Also I dont think that is Albert on the far left but I cant tell who it is.

[grandduchessella]

Baby Bee had been raised in Coburg a good part of her life (unlike her sisters) and had probably known Charles Edward very well as he prepared to take over the Dukedom. I have seen her in other Coburg photos (once CE had become ruler) so she seems to have maintained her connections there.

[grandduchessella]

OK, I've squinted until I'm cross-eyed and gone through relative lists and here's what I think:

back row: Prince Albert of S-Holstein (NOT Helena's son), Caroline Mathilde of S-Holstein (sister of VA--the youngest and still unmarried), Duchess of Albany, Infante Alfonso,  ?? (I don't know if she's royal or not--she didn't look familiar and I couldn't place her in any pertinent age group), Duke Charles Edward

front: Philip of Coburg (husband of Louise of Belgium whom we were discussing in another thread), ?? could be married to Albert or be another female relative but not one of VA's sisters, VA with Caroline Mathilde (named after her sister I guess!), Baby Bee, Ludwig of Bavaria (last King of Bavaria though he was just Regent then--wonder if he was a godfather?)

children: 3 eldest of CE & VA (Hubertus, Sibylla later Crown Princess of Sweden, Johann Leopold)

[Svetabel]

I guess Prince Albert (1863-1948  ) is that Albert - Uncle of VA? But it seems a man behind Prince Philipp looks much younger  

Anyway thank you again,Courtney!

[grandduchessella]

I don't know, I could be wrong, but being in early-mid 40s seem okay to me. I looks like he has grayish hair (in contrast with the darker mustache).  

[grandduchessella]

Sort of along the other group ID pictures, does someone know all the members of this group?



In the front I can spot Empress Augusta and Emperor Wilhelm I (is that his sister Alexandrine of Mecklenberg-Schwerin next to him in the widow weeds?). Also next to Wilhelm, it looks like perhaps Mossy and Sophie then Henry. In the group behind Wilhelm I—Fritz & Vicky with Wilhelm, Dona and their first 3 children, Moretta behind Dona, Bernard, Charlotte & Feodore at the far right back. Next to Fritz, his niece Victoria of Baden and her husband Gustav of Sweden. Other than that I don’t know. It had to be around 1885-6 since Wilhelm's still alive but Willy & Dona just have the 3 children it seems.

[HerrKaiser]

Great photo Grandduchess! Is that Ernst of Hesse on the far left with his hand on his hip? Also, the man seated to the right WI and his sister looks alot like Fritz, but I cannot figure who he is.

This photo seems to me to be a graphic reflection of how Fritz and Vicky were backgrounded. Why would the Crown Prince and his wife not be front and center in such a photo? And, Vicky's dress is ever so drab and common. I think this indicates how much they were relegated to the background. Too bad old Willy #1 did not abdicate or not be so healthy!

Do you know the location? It doesn't look like anything at Potsdam that I have seen.

[grandduchessella]

It seems to be one of those faux family shots--just a bunch of different photos cobbled together. I've seen the photo of Vicky (or a very similar one) before, also the one of Wilhelm II and his clan. These were very popular with larger families--I've seen ones with QV and her huge clan and also with the Romanovs. It sometimes actually helps with the IDs since you can recognize photos from separate sittings.

[PrinceEddy1864]

Victoria of Baden (Sweden's) father Friedrich I is seated in front of Gustav V holding hios grandson Oskar.

[HerrKaiser]

Ah, so they had MS Photo Editor back then.

Babelsburg Castle, yes indeed. Thanks Thomas. Was this the 'residence' of Auguste because she couldn't stand her husband? Who resided there once she died?
Thanks!

[HerrKaiser]

Could that be Bismarck seated in the middle?

[PrinceEddy1864]

Could that be Bismarck seated in the middle?

That is Wilhelm I in the middle.

[HerrKaiser]

I was meaning the man two people to WI's right.