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Queen Sophie. I dont have any portraits of her when she was younger.

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Re: King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway - and his Queen Sophia of Nassau
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2005, 07:38:22 PM »
I dont know if this is a real portrait but shes young!

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Re: King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway - and his Queen Sophia of Nassau
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2005, 07:22:15 PM »

Queen Sophie, wife of Oscar II (postcard)

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Re: King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway - and his Queen Sophia of Nassau
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 01:02:52 PM »
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Re: King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway - and his Queen Sophia of Nassau
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 09:38:09 PM »
I am surprised that there was no thread for good, old King Oscar, considering that so many of you must be familiar with Oscarian Sweden thanks to Astrid Lindgren and the rebellious little subject of Oscar II she created: Ehhhhmiiiiiiil! :-)

The relationship between Emil and his father is an apt metaphore for the equally choleric Oscar II's relationship with his Norwegian subjects. Except that it was always he who left in a huff, woving to never return to those ungrateful Norwegians.

Queen Sofia, though, was more wise and understanding and usually took her summer vacations at a Norwegian manor called Skinnarbøl in the deep forests by the Swedish border, while Oscar II yachted around the coasts of his two kingdoms, meeting up with the Kaiser.
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Re: King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway - and his Queen Sophia of Nassau
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2011, 08:25:47 AM »
As far as I remember their marriage was a love match?

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Re: King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway - and his Queen Sophia of Nassau
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2011, 02:37:46 PM »
He wrote her some love poetry. Some was published in an old Swedish book on him.
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Re: King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway - and his Queen Sophia of Nassau
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2011, 03:57:33 PM »
King Oscar was the kind of academician 19th-century poet who'd spout out poetry about any subject any time. None of his poems are remembered today. If he and Sofia were in love I presume it was in a "whatever love means" sort of way.

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Re: King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway - and his Queen Sophia of Nassau
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2011, 05:31:58 PM »
King Oscar was the kind of academician 19th-century poet who'd spout out poetry about any subject any time. None of his poems are remembered today. If he and Sofia were in love I presume it was in a "whatever love means" sort of way.

"Himself a distinguished writer and musical amateur, King Oscar proved a generous friend of learning, and did much to encourage the development of education throughout his dominions. In 1858 a collection of his lyrical and narrative poems, Memorials of the Swedish Fleet, published anonymously, obtained the second prize of the Swedish Academy. His "Contributions to the Military History of Sweden in the Years 1711, 1712, 1713," originally appeared in the Annals of the Academy, and were printed separately in 1865. His works, which included his speeches, translations of Herder's Cid and Goethe's Torquato Tasso, and a play, Castle Cronberg, were collected in two volumes in 1875–1876, and a larger edition, in three volumes, appeared in 1885–1888. His Easter hymn and some other of his poems are familiar throughout the Scandinavian countries. His Memoirs of Charles XII of Sweden were translated into English in 1879. In 1881 he founded the World's first open-air museum at his summer residence near Christiania, now Oslo. In 1885 he published his Address to the Academy of Music, and a translation of one of his essays on music appeared in Literature in May 1900. He had a valuable collection of printed and manuscript music, which was readily accessible to the historical student of music.

Being a theater lover, he commissioned a new opera house to be build by Axel Anderberg for the Royal Swedish Opera which was inaugurated on September 19 1898. It is until today the current home of that institution. Oscar II told Henrik Ibsen that his Ghosts was "not a good play". As he was dying, he requested that the theatres not be closed on account of his death. His wishes were respected."
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Re: King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway - and his Queen Sophia of Nassau
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2011, 05:36:55 PM »
"Sophia's marriage to Prince Oscar of Sweden, second son of the reigning king, was considered to be the first in the Royal House that was not completely arranged. Though the match was considered very suitable, the couple was allowed to make their own decision on the basis of their feelings, and generally, their marriage was considered happy....She was described as learned, calm and sensible but boring and regarded as a respected and dignified a center of the Royal Family life and someone from whom to seek advice. She exercised stern discipline over both her sons and her husband and shocked people by letting her sons attend a public boys' school. Her family life represented the Victorian ideal but involved the usual double-standards. Oscar was sometimes unfaithful, but much more discreet than his brother Charles."
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Re: King Oscar II of Sweden and Norway - and his Queen Sophia of Nassau
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2011, 10:34:01 PM »
His Easter hymn and some other of his poems are familiar throughout the Scandinavian countries.

Lol, obviously this is from the 1911 edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica, because today nobody is familiar with them!
More from that source:
"His acute intelligence and his aloofness from the dynastic considerations affecting most European sovereigns gave the king considerable weight as an arbitrator in international questions."
That aloofness from the "royal gang" is perhaps why he isn't such a hot topic on the forum.

Here is a link to a collection of most of Oscar II's writings. His poetic style is quite similar to KR's. Big words and sentiments, more telling than showing, very little concrete, neither in the form of symbols nor reality. But whereas KR once in a while hits gold or at least silver, Oscar remains mediocre. He is not even charming, since he didn't write much about the concrete realities surrounding him.

Among the best poems are perhaps those from Sofiero (his seaside holiday estate in Scania). In one of them he describes the ships from many countries which he sees from his window, passing though Öresund.

and a play, Castle Cronberg
It's not about Hessian Cronberg / Kronberg im Taunus of Empress Friedrich fame, but Cronborg / Kronborg aka Hamlet's Elsinore. But Oscar's play is about King Carl X Gustav, who invaded Denmark. (Both Oscar II and his brother grew up and reigned in a time when both cultural, political and dynastical Pan-Scandinavian ideas were widespread, something which has left its mark in his writings.)
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