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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children, Part II
« Reply #60 on: July 08, 2010, 01:36:11 PM »
I was reading on the main page Muriel Buchannan's biography on Victoria Melita, and she says..."But on one occasion her kindness caused me a great deal of unhappiness. "It would be so wonderful if Meriel could marry Sandro, it would be such fun to have her with us," she told my mother; but it all came to nothing."  Which Sandro are they speaking about?  Thanks.

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« Reply #61 on: July 08, 2010, 02:49:10 PM »
Thanks. But cannot be as it would be an unequal marriage.  :(

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« Reply #62 on: July 08, 2010, 03:31:59 PM »
The Leuchtenbergs married into most of the royal families of  Europe & Brazil.  Including  Russia. They had "Imperial Highness} status in the Russian Empire,  {Alexander ] and  Napoleon I.  The Swedish royal family descends  from  the   first Queen Consort of the current  dynasty. They would have been perfectly equal

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« Reply #63 on: July 08, 2010, 10:43:01 PM »
The Leuchtenbergs married into most of the royal families of  Europe & Brazil.  Including  Russia. They had "Imperial Highness} status in the Russian Empire,  {Alexander ] and  Napoleon I.  The Swedish royal family descends  from  the   first Queen Consort of the current  dynasty. They would have been perfectly equal

The question is that Muriel was not equal for Alexander,and his father was adamant on this subject.

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children, Part II
« Reply #64 on: July 09, 2010, 08:46:34 AM »
Did he return her feelings at all or was it an unequal love affair in other ways as well?
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« Reply #65 on: July 09, 2010, 10:27:48 AM »
Indeed. I don't think he did. It would be nice if he had married her, she would be like another Daisy Pless.  ;)

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children, Part II
« Reply #66 on: July 09, 2010, 12:55:26 PM »
Did he return her feelings at all or was it an unequal love affair in other ways as well?

The one who loved in their case was Muriel, for Alexander she was a passing fancy though with sincere and deep feelings, more probably he never had an intention to marry her as his finances (and of his father) were in deplorable state and they need a rich and equal bride...interesting that after all Alexander married a ballet dancer in 1917 for love..not a wealthy woman.
Muriel never recovered from that love and even in later years idealised Alexander in her memoirs. She said they couldn't be together as they were unequal and his father was against, but she obviously understood her Prince Charming just didn't love her so much as she loved him.

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« Reply #67 on: July 09, 2010, 01:33:51 PM »
Yes. Kyril and Ducky were both wealthy in their own rights, however both of their sources were tied with Russia. When the revolution came, they lost everything. The only one who had something was Minny, who owned two houses (one with her sisters (Hvidore)) and another a cottage with her husband) in Denmark. I wonder if Ducky would have kept some money in England or Germany ?

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children, Part II
« Reply #68 on: July 11, 2010, 06:10:47 PM »


Smilling!

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children, Part II
« Reply #69 on: July 11, 2010, 06:31:32 PM »
I had bought some images from that occasion. She was sailing to the US in 1924 (?) for her big tour. It garnered a fair amount of publcity but it wasn't the financial and PR success that had been hoped for.
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« Reply #70 on: July 12, 2010, 07:46:48 AM »
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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children, Part II
« Reply #71 on: July 12, 2010, 02:18:48 PM »
The picture was already posted in Victoria Melita's own thread.

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children, Part II
« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2010, 07:03:54 AM »
Yes, i know Veronica. I found out just after i posted it, But well, this is her topic as Grand Duchess and its right posted here too.

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children, Part II
« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2010, 08:30:51 AM »
Yes. You can post it in both threads. Since the title here is "his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children".

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children, Part II
« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2010, 09:04:40 AM »
Actually, you shouldn't post in both threads as a general rule. This was obviously an error with 2 posters finding the same picture coincidentally at the same time. To do it as a regular manner of business just causes confusion and clutters up threads. I actually think that since VM's Hesse thread is past the usual cut-off limit, it's time to lock it up and move all  her business over here.
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