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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2011, 11:06:36 PM »
President Mubarak will speech on national tv tonight at 10.00PM local time ( 08.00PM GMT) and will probably announce he will step down as President.Meanwhile top brass is in a meeting all day but without the supreme commander,the President.This might lead to a temporary take-over by the Army in order to establish stability again,everybody happy and hoping for a better future.A good thing indeed,the forces are widely popular with the Egyptians and almost every family has members in the forces.So in case of them taking over for a while until the next elections order and peace will return to Egypt,add more pay and lower foodprices and the people would be happy again.No-one can live on two dollars a day on average,can you?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12421000

 

Egypts top brass has promissed Egyptians they will get all they asked for.Inshallah!

Mubarak refuses to step down,Egypt in rage.Role of forces unclear now and everybody is unhappy with Hosni Mubarak's speech:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12424587

 
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2011, 02:55:34 AM »
TY Lucien for keeping this vital issue upfront here.  Since many of us here are students of history, and by consequence, revolutions...this is very pertintinet, also awesome to watch history in the making.

I've long followed some ME blogs, none of this surprises me.  Egyptian people need our support.  Check him out, I've been reading him for years before this explosion.

http://twitter.com/Sandmonkey

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2011, 04:50:46 AM »
The military high council of Egypt came with a statement this morning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12428273

Meanwhile "Washington" doesn't get much credit for knowing what it wants either,
it's swinging in statements taken by surprise and not equipped apparently to face the
unexpected crisis there and act diplomatically forcefull.It lead to President Mubarak
saying he will not allow any messing in national business and he will continue and stay on
regardless the "comment from abroad" .Thinking your the big kid everyone listens to isn't
the right approachr.No-one listens in the end.Another missed chance in a row of several
that could well have lead to a normalizing Egypt by this time had it been played right.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12427088

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2011, 04:56:26 AM »
TY Lucien for keeping this vital issue upfront here.  Since many of us here are students of history, and by consequence, revolutions...this is very pertintinet, also awesome to watch history in the making.

I've long followed some ME blogs, none of this surprises me.  Egyptian people need our support.  Check him out, I've been reading him for years before this explosion.

http://twitter.com/Sandmonkey

Not much is on in the link here,at least not enough to get a clear picture,some name calling to and fro from people thousands of miles away on a state they know nothing about apparently.Good you try tho,because Egypt is really worthwhile our attention,thanks for that Terence.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2011, 08:29:27 AM »
There are constant reports by the foreign press agencies that the Presidential family left Cairo today
but are still in Egypt,on this day the 18th day of the protests,proclaimed by the crowds as "Goodbye - Day".

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/11/egypt.protests/index.html


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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2011, 10:08:10 AM »
There are constant reports by the foreign press agencies that the Presidential family left Cairo today
but are still in Egypt,on this day the 18th day of the protests,proclaimed by the crowds as "Goodbye - Day".

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/11/egypt.protests/index.html


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The President and his family left for the resort of Sharm-el-Sheik,a popular tourist destination in the east of the Sinai.

Egypt today:

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?mailingid=22252&flush=1

Courtesy ANP
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2011, 10:39:06 AM »
Even the Egyptians living outside Egypt are protesting.

In London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yOz4TLKCYA&feature=related

In New York City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDTNTpTQ6WY

In Milan
They are screaming "Mubarak murderer!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXiIe6W-Llc&feature=related

Another from Italy, it should be in Rome.
"We are tired of Mubarak!"
"We don't like this government!"
"Go away and leave us in peace!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO6HuVKNaQQ&feature=related

Mubarak, it's time to go away!

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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2011, 11:31:09 AM »
So he quit.  Just yesterday he was saying he wouldn't leave (but transferred power to his vice-president).  I guess he finally woke up and realized the truth, the people wanted him OUT!

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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2011, 11:36:08 AM »
Yes,he finally gave in,he stepped down.I must say I am sorry that it took him as long as it did,
an earlyer solution for a stabile transition of power would have been more honourable for him.
Sad really,the drama's behind each event,this is another one


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12433045

Hosni Mubarak,President of Egypt,the " Last Farao" :

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?specialid=4331&flush=1

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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2011, 01:31:11 PM »
Yes,he finally gave in,he stepped down.I must say I am sorry that it took him as long as it did,
an earlyer solution for a stabile transition of power would have been more honourable for him.
Sad really,the drama's behind each event,this is another one


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12433045

Hosni Mubarak,President of Egypt,the " Last Farao" :

http://www.anp-photo.com/search.pp?specialid=4331&flush=1

Courtesy ANP


The Swiss bank accounts of ex-president Mubarak and his family have been frozen with immediate effect.

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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2011, 08:34:22 AM »
Egypt moves to reassure its allies:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12440138

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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2011, 11:15:49 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2011, 12:58:43 AM »
In accordance with the wishes of the Egyptians,the forces have desolved Parliament:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12443678

Meanwhile a march of gratitude to the Forces is announced for this coming friday.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2011, 10:52:04 AM »
Many things going on today,on Tahrir Square demo's for higher wages ,Tehran found a march announced as one in support of the Egyptian "revolution" to turn out into a vast protest by thousands and thousands against president wacko Amedinedjad,and fugitives from Tunesia think it best to instead of building up their country and newly found freedom flee to the Italian island of Lampedusa,south-west of Sicily.
More fugitives the locals on a small island is bount to give trouble.Italy flies them all over to the mainland from where they will probably will have to be flown to Tunesia again.As thousands more await to escape Tinesia on its shores,Italy tryed to prevent them from starting their trip in wacko vessels at all until to meet the Tunesian government saying;"Don't mingle in our Domestic affairs"!! Oh Really? We'll see about that.

But what pleases  most onthe one hand,and holds the biggest scare for the wellbeing of the protesters,are the demo's in Iran against their regime that gained momentum after the Egyptian turnover.I've always hoped for this to happen,a nation sick and tired of bearded jerks in long dresses and the sharia.I hope they will have the same resilience and support Egypt saw these past few weeks.Don't think returning into another Pahlavi Empire,just believe in freedom of speech,enough pay and food,just like in Egypt.Allthough I highly respect the Pahlavi Dynasty,as well as the Qajar,there won't be anything like it after Amedinedjad is kicked out.Fascinating times in a fascinating world,scary sometimes on the one hand,but expected change nonetheless.It is history in the making,all of it,and your children's children will find these events back in their history books.Think of all those who justly take to the streets for a decent living,they are more worthwhile then anything or anyone else.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12448413



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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2011, 02:06:22 PM »
History of Revolution:

I have watched this revolution from day 1.  What is interesting is that the young activists in pan- arab countries have been planning this for about 5 years. It has been studied from all angles. The Google exec came in later who put up the facebook " We Are All Khaled Said."

Khaled was a young business owner who posted a YouTube of MuBarack police  thugs in possession of marijuana. Several plainclothesmen went to his place of business and pulled him out and brutally stomped him to death in front of witnesses and lied to the family about what really happened.. On the facebook there were pictures of Khaled smiling and then cell phone pictures of him in the morgue almost without a face.

Egypt has one of the highest users of Facebook in the Middle East.....it is in the millions. Within a week 130,000 users had signed up until 473,000 right before the revolution. Then Tunisia happened. The combination of occurrences happened at this particular time in Egypt.  The anonymous activists asked how many would form a protest on a certain day. He was expecting maybe 50.000 but was surprised when 100,000 Egyptians signed up and it began.

The Muslin Brotherhood stayed out of the clashes until the day intense fighting lasted for 14 hours. It was then they stepped in and organized it with groups at the front. If you are injured go to the back and next in line step up. Others were assigned building blockades. Egyptian business men donated blankets and tents as so on. A very important factor was the army who did not involve themselves until the finally aimed their guns up in the air and onto the ground. Then Mubarck's police left. The police also sent in whole busloads of young men for pay. Some large companies told their workers to join the police and they would be receive their pay. At the end of that day as the young police fled they were seen pulling off their uniforms and disappearing.  (page 1)