Author Topic: Kaiserin Augusta Viktoria (Dona)  (Read 219858 times)

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Re: Kaiserin Augusta Viktoria (Dona)
« Reply #450 on: December 16, 2013, 05:25:33 PM »
I do wonder more about her relationship with her other sisters (her problems with Louise was well documented in her memoirs).

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Re: Kaiserin Augusta Viktoria (Dona)
« Reply #451 on: December 16, 2013, 07:03:54 PM »
You can read samples from Feodora's novels (which unfortunately are not digitialized, unlike so much older literature) in her biography. The extract from the novel Durch den Nebel seems quite interesting, with its themes of rural life in Schleswig and the Danish-German conflict. It takes place by the Fjord of Flensburg - an environment that she must have known well from stays at the family summer residence Gravenstein and with her sister Karoline Mathilde's family at Glücksburg. Anyone who has read her biography or the novels?
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Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
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« Reply #452 on: December 18, 2013, 06:42:12 PM »
Thanks. I am also interested in Dona's relationship with "Calma" Caroline Mathilde who married into King Christian IX's German branch of the family.

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« Reply #453 on: September 10, 2016, 10:48:51 PM »
In the many many pictures I have seen in books and online,I have never seen a picture of Willie and Dona's children with grandmother Vicky( I know about the strained relationship but wonder if  a picture was ever taken) or even Fritz when he was alive. Also I have never seen a picture of the children with Queen Victoria.

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« Reply #455 on: July 14, 2017, 08:25:18 PM »
I wish to remind users that due to International Copyright laws you can NOT post photos which are in copyright without permission of the copyright holder for images after 1923. Please do not post photos if you do not know the date or have copyright permission.

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« Reply #456 on: July 14, 2017, 09:54:37 PM »
Hello, please may you tell me how you know if a mass produced old picture is in copyright? (as I genuinely don't know anymore!) I thought I did but now I don't think I do and I don't want to get the forum in trouble. Unless it states specifically on a photograph I don't know how to tell for an old picture, or even how it can be under copyright in most cases. Many of the large companies which watermark old photos claim they own them, but they were made available to the public to purchase or collect many years before, (for that was their sole purpose), and they are still available to buy and trade on personal selling sites and fairs etc freely today. It is those companies who watermark who are monopolising on them and marketing them, not us. Pictures of history truly belong in a public forum for everyone to see not to be used to make money

Most pictures are classed as antiques and available to buy and sell for a second time without going through the companies as there's many copies of them about as they were produced en masse and made available to the public from the Crown or the photographic company selling them. Unless it specifically states, or is from a copyrighted and current exhibition, how can you tell? (- genuine question). How is it a modern company can 'own' old pictures unless they have the rights from the crown or owners or those who sold it originally?

I'm a historian and I know if I wish to publish photos in a book or publication for profit, for business use, or in schools/universities then you have to get permission and that, generally, if you post a photo you didn't shoot yourself, you could be violating someone's copyright :- but those are for modern photos or rare privately owned archives from which you ask to gain permission from. but I wasn't aware this applied for all photos after 1923 and that you can't post old photos that were made public along time ago to a public historical/research forum for non profit.

I may have to stop posting photos here as I wouldn't want the forum to get into trouble since I don't quite understand how you know who owns each picture now or how you're expected to gain permission from the copyright holder when there is no rights-holder as such, as everything I posted were made public and sold to the public to distribute and for divulgation purposes years before any modern copyrighting existed... the purpose of such photos was to be seen by all. Also, standard, exceptions and limitations vary substantially from country to country so it is very confusing, (or maybe it's just me). Please may you tell me how to know if a picture is copyrighted and/or how to tell who owns them now. (genuine question I'm not arguing or attacking you). I'd be pleased to know what I am able to post so I do not breach anything for you.

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Re: Kaiserin Augusta Viktoria (Dona)
« Reply #457 on: July 14, 2017, 11:21:55 PM »
If you don't know, you shouldn't post the photo if it is more recent than 1923, to be certain.

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Re: Kaiserin Augusta Viktoria (Dona)
« Reply #458 on: November 10, 2018, 11:21:49 AM »
If people are still interested in books about Dona - there is a German writer, Karin Feuerstein-Prasser, who published a book about the three German empresses - Augusta, Victoria (Vicky) and Auguste Victoria. If you know German, it's an interesting read. The author has written also books about Prussian queens.

I agree with what most people here wrote - Dona's image as much beloved mother and empress is spoiled for me by her ungrateful, spiteful behaviour towards her unhappy mother in law.

I find it ironical that the marriages Vicky arranged all played out against her in the end. She strongly supported the match between her brother Bertie and Danish Alix that became one factor in the alienation of Germany and Britain - she supported her daughter's unhappy Battenberg romance - and she supported her son's marriage to Dona whose father she and Fritz liked very much. Vicky was, iirc, Dona's godmother and liked her initially.

Keeping her grandchildren from such a doting grandmother as Vicky was is really cruel.

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« Reply #459 on: November 18, 2018, 02:41:20 PM »
I find it ironical that the marriages Vicky arranged all played out against her in the end. She strongly supported the match between her brother Bertie and Danish Alix that became one factor in the alienation of Germany and Britain - she supported her daughter's unhappy Battenberg romance - and she supported her son's marriage to Dona whose father she and Fritz liked very much. Vicky was, iirc, Dona's godmother and liked her initially.

Well, surely, she had her reasons. Regarding Bertie, she knew that there are not many eligible Princesses around. Before that some of them considered Princess Elisabeth zu Wied, which he described as "not a beauty", let alone others, so she might opted for Alaexandra as her brother liked her from the beginning. Regarding Battenberg, she maybe only wanted her daughter happy, so, being a Battenberg was not so big problem in her eyes, compared to her daughters happiness. As for Dona, she might have supported her as they were closely related, Dona was granddaughter of her aunt Feodora.