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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2005, 08:46:37 AM »
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Didn't prince Richard adopt his nephew prince Rainer, son of his twin brother prince Christoph? I think I've read that somewhere, and that it happened some time in the 1950's. Does anyone know the reason for the adoption? Maybe the reasons were financial (just guessing)?

Until I joined this discussion board and learned so many facts about all kinds of royals, I didn't know that the Hesses were so infected (I know it's a strong and perhaps unappropriate word) by the Nazis. Of course I knew that prince Christoph was killed in action (in Italy, I believe), but the fact that more or less all of them were so deeply involved with the Nazis was news to me.


Yes,  Richard adopted Rainer - for financial reasons in order to pass on his inheritance with a limited tax burden.  Christoph was indeed on active duty when his plane crashed into the mountains, but not as the result of enemy fire or a bomb placed on board  ...

A new book about the Hesses and Hitler is due out shortly - ROyals and the Reich by Jonathan Petropolous, to be published by Oxford in  Feb 2006.

Richard lived rather quietly after the war - .  I will check Wolfgang's memoirs (published privately in German) to see what he writes about his brother.
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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2005, 08:50:51 AM »
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I think they had have the still hope to make a new career. And most of them underestimated the nazis.
This was also the problem of Stauffenberg and others. They went to the army without an exactly look to the regime



You must read the book, Who Financed Hitler ... interesting reading.   Grand Duchess Victoria of Russia saw National Socialism as a way to defeat Soviet Russia, and bring her husband to the throne.

Philip of Hesse was quite active with the Party - nearly from the get go.  He held political positions within the Hesse area.  It didn't hurt that his wife was a daughter of the Italian king.  Transcripts of a conversation between Hitler and Goering and Philip were made public after the war.  Hitler's attitude toward the Hesse family changed after Italian switched sides.  
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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2005, 09:39:27 AM »
Who wrote "Who Financed Hitler" ? Is is still out ?  ???

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2005, 10:17:24 AM »
WHO FINANCED HITLER : The Secret Funding of Hitler's Rise to Power, 1919-1933

(Paperback) ISBN: 0671760831
(Hardback) ISBN: 0803790392

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2005, 10:51:49 AM »
Victoria Melita sold jewelleries and spent a lot of money to the NSDAP.

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2005, 10:54:07 AM »
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Who wrote "Who Financed Hitler" ? Is is still out ?  ???


The authors are James and Suzanne Pool -and the book is long out of print, having been published in 1978.  YOu can find dozens of copies for sale at www.addall.com
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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2005, 11:01:14 AM »
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Hi, Want to know more about Landgrave Moritz's uncle Prince Richard of Hesse (1901-1969), son of Margaret of Prussia. Anyone ?



Found this quote in the Washington post....  October 2, 1949 .. a column refers to Katherine Littell and her husband visiting France and Germany and "met again Prince Richard of Hese, an old-time friend, and one of the numerous nephews of the late Kaiser.  Prince Richard joined the Nazi party, says:  Hitler will be appreciated 50 years from now."

Fast forward 50 years:  1999 ... appreciated ..no, don't think so.
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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #52 on: November 28, 2005, 11:37:08 AM »
How pathetic that he made that quote in 1949.  :-/
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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #53 on: November 28, 2005, 03:21:01 PM »
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Found this quote in the Washington post....  October 2, 1949 .. a column refers to Katherine Littell and her husband visiting France and Germany and "met again Prince Richard of Hese, an old-time friend, and one of the numerous nephews of the late Kaiser.  Prince Richard joined the Nazi party, says:  Hitler will be appreciated 50 years from now."



He was obviously still a Nazi four years after the war had ended and all the horrible crimes and atrocities committed by the Nazi regime and its allies were known to the whole world.  >:( I'm speechless.  :-X

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #54 on: November 28, 2005, 07:46:30 PM »
Seems like an absolute fool !  :(

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2007, 06:21:41 AM »
Hi everybody,

I just am curious about why the Hesse-Kassel family doesn't has its own topic? It is really hard
to find information and pictures/paintings about the Hesse-Kassel family at one place or to find at all.
So I invite you all to share your information and pictures here.

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #56 on: March 04, 2007, 09:44:45 AM »
Hi everybody,

I just am curious about why the Hesse-Kassel family doesn't has its own topic? It is really hard
to find information and pictures/paintings about the Hesse-Kassel family at one place or to find at all.
So I invite you all to share your information and pictures here.

Let´s go ;)

The story began with Philipp I  Landgrave of Hesse, the "magnanimous", who was, by the way, a leading champion of the Reformation, but had a not very fair private life: he was married to the sickly princess Christine of Saxony, who borne him ten children, and, at the same time, he married, morganatically and bigamously, Margarethe von der Saale, who gave him not less than nine children.



When Philipp I was dead on march 1567, his territories were divided between the four sons of his first wife Christine. William became William IV of Hesse-Kassel, Louis became Louis IV of Hesse-Marburg, Philipp became Philipp II of Hesse-Rheinfelds and the younger, Georg, became Georg I of Hesse-Darmstadt.

William IV of Hesse-Kassel, the founder of the first male line, took a part in the safeguard of the Lutheran Reformation, but he gained fame cause his patronage of the arts and science, and for being, himself, a pioneer in astronomical research. He married princess Sabine of Württemberg, who gave him eleven children, but he had also illegitimate issue by his mistress Elisabeth Wallenstein.



The older son of William and Sabine, was the landgrave Moritz of Hesse-Kassel. He married twice: firstly, with Agnes zu Solms-Laubach and, secondly, with Julianne von Nassau-Siegen. Moritz had been raised in the Lutheranism, but he converted to Calvinism. He also had time enough to ruined financially his family ;)

And now it´s time for landgrave William V of Hese-Kassel, son of Moritz by Agnes zu Solms-Laubach. He was married to Amalie Elisabeth of Hanau-Münzenberg. They suffered the War of the Thirty Years: William was dead in exile, and Amalie Elisabeth, mother of twelve children, was energetic and strong-willed enough to act as a regent for their son, William VI.

By the way, she was not only the mother of William VI, but also of Charlotte, who married Karl Ludwig of the Paltz and had a daughter, Charlotte Elisabeth, named Liselotte...The famous Liselotte of Orleans was a grand-daughter of our Amalie Elisabeth.

Landgrave William VI of Hesse-Kassel married Hedwig Sophie of Brandenburg. They became the parents not only of William VII but also of two famous princesses of this hessian branch: Charlotte Amalie, by her marriage with Christian V queen of Denmark, and Elisabeth Henriette, by her marriage with Frederick I queen of Prussia (note: the two ladys were paternal aunts of Liselotte of the Paltz).






 
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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2008, 01:08:29 PM »
Can anyone give me any information on this member of the Hessen-Kassel family who was listed as head of family 1884-1888? I know nothing of him and I have never seen any image of him.

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2008, 07:29:36 PM »
If you google Frederick II Landgrave of Hesse Kassel the Wikipedia has a good portrait of him and some basic info.  His first wife was Princess Mary of Great Britian the daughter of George II.  The divorced when he decided to become a Catholic.  Just remember the Wikipedia is by no
mean a reliable soure of information.

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Re: The Hesse-Cassel family
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2008, 01:12:29 PM »
I'm afraid that's the wrong one. The one I want is in the 19th century, the one you refer to is 18th century.