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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #90 on: April 21, 2006, 10:23:40 PM »
Yes that's the playroom - I have other pictures of that table in there.  He and Petrov are having lunch.

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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #91 on: April 21, 2006, 10:27:26 PM »
Wonderful -- thank you again!

Do you know of any photos of Aleksei's classroom at the AP? I've only seen one watercolor, and I've had a hard time making sense of the layout.

It seems to me I started a thread about this somewhere. I'll try to dig up the link...
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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #92 on: April 22, 2006, 11:49:46 AM »
Yes I do - I'll put it up later today in the site.  It used to be up, but for some reason it came down.


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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #93 on: April 22, 2006, 12:04:51 PM »
It's back up with the two images I have.

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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #94 on: April 22, 2006, 02:59:22 PM »
Thank you, Bob!

This is the other watercolor of Aleksei's classroom. Unfortunately, it's divided over two pages in Toys of the Tsar's Children, and I haven't found a way to scan or photograph it clearly without breaking the book in half. You're welcome to post it on the Time Machine, but I sure won't be offended if you don't think the quality doesn't measure up!
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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #95 on: June 17, 2006, 09:45:58 PM »
Here's another mystery...

This photo is captioned in Nikolai II, by Bokhanov, as "Empress Aleksandra Fyodorovna in her study in the Alexander Palace:


But it sure doesn't look like the AP to me. The wall paper reminds me of Peterhof, but I'm really not certain at all. Anyone care to hazard a guess?
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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #96 on: June 17, 2006, 09:55:49 PM »
The "New Palace" [now ruins] in Alexandria Park, Petrehof  perhaps ?
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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #97 on: June 17, 2006, 09:59:01 PM »
I would agree that it doesn't look like the Alexander Palace. The furniture seems a bit heavy. The wallpaper does look like Peterhof, but I don't recognize the pattern. I would guess that it's Peterhof.

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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #98 on: January 09, 2007, 02:31:51 PM »
Has bought for 120! Roubles 3 releases of the almanac " the Last days " for 1917. Diary Virubovoy. Has seen photos of game and class rooms of the fellow-heir in Aleksandrovsk a palace. 3 releases the most interesting Are a pity only is absent.

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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #99 on: January 09, 2007, 02:50:16 PM »
Has bought for 120! Roubles 3 releases of the almanac " the Last days " for 1917. Diary Virubovoy. Has seen photos of game and class rooms of the fellow-heir in Aleksandrovsk a palace. 3 releases the most interesting Are a pity only is absent.

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Re: Is this the playroom?
« Reply #100 on: January 09, 2007, 03:47:06 PM »
Only not 1917, but 1927 of the almanac.
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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #101 on: May 11, 2007, 11:51:35 PM »

I'm wondering if this photo might have been taken in Aleksei's bedroom at the AP:


He's sitting in bed, and it looks as though there's a large stove/fireplace on the wall behind him. That and the windows on his left seem to match the layout of his bedroom in this plan:



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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #102 on: May 12, 2007, 12:00:40 AM »
Slightly off-topic:  
Does anyone know *where* in the palace the sickroom was located?

From the stories of the children's bout with measles during the abdication, I know it must have been upstairs, in the private family wing, but it's not labeled on any of the palace plans I've seen.

Another clue to the whereabouts of the sickroom:
March 26 Tatiana is sick with typhus. "...I have been isolated from my sisters and I live here with Shura in the room situated between the playroom and Sonya Orbeliani's one. While I am ill Mother comes to see me every day between 2 and 5 p.m..."

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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #103 on: June 13, 2007, 08:08:29 PM »
Hello!
  I've been trying to figure out the location of the sick room for a long time, and I have an idea (probably feeble, but what the heck...).  First, I noticed in a photo of Alexei's bedroom showing his dressing table between the windows, that the curtains look like the ones in the sick room. I got to thinking: I believe that his rooms were remodeled late (1916?). If you look at room 16 & 17 on the plan---his bath and cinema---and take out the bathroom and look at it as one big room, then the configuration is correct for the sick room. The door midway on the long wall, the stove in the corner, and the window and door in the opposite corner, where there is a picture of Nicholas sitting by the sick bed.  What I wondered is, could that have been the sickroom, and then changed in the final remodel of Alexei's rooms?
  I hope that I make some sense---just an idea, anyhow!   ::)

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Re: Help ID-ing various rooms
« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2008, 11:11:09 AM »
Hello!
  I've been trying to figure out the location of the sick room for a long time, and I have an idea (probably feeble, but what the heck...).  First, I noticed in a photo of Alexei's bedroom showing his dressing table between the windows, that the curtains look like the ones in the sick room. I got to thinking: I believe that his rooms were remodeled late (1916?). If you look at room 16 & 17 on the plan---his bath and cinema---and take out the bathroom and look at it as one big room, then the configuration is correct for the sick room. The door midway on the long wall, the stove in the corner, and the window and door in the opposite corner, where there is a picture of Nicholas sitting by the sick bed.  What I wondered is, could that have been the sickroom, and then changed in the final remodel of Alexei's rooms?
  I hope that I make some sense---just an idea, anyhow!   ::)

I think your idea is very good! To my opinion the sick room can only be room 16 and 17 OR room number 60, in the opposite wing. In this room everything is where it should be according to all the photos we have seen. It was a sick room so it had to be conveniently far from the girls' rooms.

Tell me what you think.