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Re: Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #210 on: June 15, 2008, 03:37:46 PM »
I've read somewhere that Alexandra had glasses. Can anyone tell me when she got them or what she needed them for? (ex. reading)
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« Reply #211 on: June 16, 2008, 02:45:39 AM »
The empress was  glasses in fact, these glasses had mounts in scale and a glasses, she used to read and work, it had been given by Dr. Grigorjevski.

A glass return was near the mine shaft.

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Re: Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #212 on: June 16, 2008, 03:55:39 AM »
I never knew. Did Alix have trouble with her eye-sight?

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« Reply #213 on: June 16, 2008, 04:13:37 AM »
A. Tegleva said that the Empress needed glasses because she had sore eyes have cried trops.

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« Reply #214 on: June 16, 2008, 12:09:36 PM »
Cried Trops? What's that?
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« Reply #215 on: June 16, 2008, 12:56:58 PM »
The Empress was cry too because of misfortune (revolution, disease Alexis ,...) what his tired eyes.

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« Reply #216 on: June 17, 2008, 01:43:24 AM »
Thanks, Alexandre64. That is so sad =[

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« Reply #217 on: June 17, 2008, 09:58:48 PM »
Does anyone know when she got them?
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« Reply #218 on: July 04, 2008, 11:33:40 PM »
In the first volume of her memoirs, Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna (The Younger) describes a visit Alexandra made to  Pskov during the First World War.  The Empress had hoped to make a "surprise" visit to Marie's hospital, but the Governor of Pskov warned Marie the night before,   well aware that special arrangements would have to be made.  One of them was provision for the Empress to be carried up stairs because of her bad heart.

Alexandra arrived as expected, then put in a long and fatiguing day, visiting several hospitals and Red Cross headquarters in Pskov.  Marie herself was worn out, and wondered how someone in such precarious health could have lasted through such a day.

My immediate thought was someone with a heart so bad she couldn't go up one flight of stairs spent several hours walking up and down endless hospital corridors and speaking to hundreds of patients??  Either the "heart problem" was greatly exaggerated, or didn't exist at all.  I think Marie thought so too, but being a loyal Romanov to the end, refrained from saying so in print.

Marie observed that many of the patients seemed disappointed to see their empress and her two daughters dressed as ordinary nurses.  She also observed that there were thousands of women in Russia who could be nurses, but only one could be the empress.  I sometimes wonder if the late Queen Mother of England used Alexandra as an example of what a queen should NOT do during a war...

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Re: Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #219 on: July 11, 2008, 09:49:08 AM »

And until some one comes up with a more complete explanation and concrete evidence (none of which currently exist), there is no proof Alexei suffered from anything other than hemophilia.

This isn't concrete evidence, but an explanation:


It would be nice if it was that clear cut, but to this day in the 21st century a proven diagnosis does not exist. The puzzlement is that Alexei had a few symptoms that hæmophilia simply cannot answer.

One of the most convincing was that Alexei's disease was episodic. He went months, and even a whole year without any problems worth writing home about. Hæmophilia is ever present, the body lacks the clotting factor it needs for the blood, making every injury dangerous. Alexei rumbled, tumbled, stubbed his toes, got his fingers caught, and endured many other childhood bruises.. but not all of them haemhorraged. He wasn't fighting for his life with every stumble.

Take a look at every serious attack, and it is noted that Alexei was generally feeling under the weather along side the bleeding problem. Each time his immune system was down, say with a cold, he seemed at further risk of reacting badly to an injury. His temperature would rise, saying that his body was very plainly trying to fight off an infection of some kind. Extremely high fevers led to delerium, a trait of the Central Nervous System.

None of this is consistant with hæmophilia.

The greatest mystery was the fact that sometimes Alexei's attacks would occur some time after the initial injury. A perfect example is the Spala Episode, it took weeks for that attack to fully flare after his accident in the boat. In laymen's terms, hæmophilia just doesn't do that. That disease acts right upon the injury, it doesn't fester for weeks.

Nor does a hæmophiliac attack suddenly disapate as quickly as it begins. Alexei's recovery in 1912 was quite spontaneous. The results were temporary crippling, but he was well on the road to recovery only a few hours from when it seemed all was lost.

 All of the symptoms seen in the Spala case, the pallor, internal haemorrhaging, high fevers, and delirium match with what medical science now calls Aplastic Crisis. In Aplastic patients a virus, like a common cold, compromises the bone marrow's ability to produce healthy red blood cells. An injury then could be potentially fatal. It is also a self-limiting disorder, meaning that as soon as the infection runs its course the crisis is over. An Aplastic Crisis episode will last anywhere around six to ten days and then subside all on its own. The recommended treatment is to give the patient comfort and support only until the infection is gone and the marrow is able to recover.

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Re: Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #220 on: July 11, 2008, 11:25:04 AM »
I have just had a sudden attack of sciatic pain and it hurt to do anything. It's still hurting in fact. I now have an idea of what she went through almost every day.
Knowing the pain that Alexandra was in most of the time makes it possible to understand why she would be considered stand-offish, uninterested in her surroundings, or even tightlipped on occassion. That level of pain really would cloud your judgement and make her a bit tense.

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« Reply #221 on: July 11, 2008, 12:22:55 PM »
Her rearranging of her icons was probably owed partially to OCD. I have it, although I have almost cured myself of it. We(most people with OCD) tend to do tasks over and over again even after they are already complete. Either that or we are 'obsessive' about certain things. It's really annoying. 
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« Reply #222 on: July 11, 2008, 03:00:40 PM »
I know it was not true sciatica. But it sure was painful. Sometimes these things just happen. But as much as it hurt, I feel really bad for Alexandra for having to deal with real sciatica all the time.
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« Reply #223 on: July 11, 2008, 05:05:34 PM »
Believe me, there is nothing worse than chronic back pain/sciatica, disc problems. At least today we have the joy of great painkillers, acupuncture, physiotherapy,etc. The poor Empress for having to attend functions, stand for hours, and wear those terribly uncomfortable corsets. The constant, acute pain clouds any and all ability to think and act like a normal human being. Compound this with the stress (always super great for pain) of dealing with Alexei, her four daughters, her duties as Empress, etc, I can empathize with her dour, stand-offish demeanor.

Marty, get yourself to a doctor before the condition becomes worse. Take care and rest.

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Re: Re: Alexandra and her Health Part 2
« Reply #224 on: July 28, 2008, 11:36:26 PM »
The last book I read mentioned that monthly she made lists of her wardrobe and catalogued, inventoried, etc. her possessions. If something was out place she reprimanded her ladies. She also did this for her children's wardrobes. I had never heard this before and it really saddened me. Lace trim on her dresses was removed, inventoried, and then sewn back on by her staff. With all of the other  more pressing and serious concerns the poor woman had and knowing what was to come, it's heartbreaking. I'm sure information like this got back to the court and people that didn't like her or the tsar and I can't imagine what terrible gossip ensued.