King Paul & Queen Frederika (nee Hannover) of Greece

[PAVLOV]

Well whatever the arguments are, the Greek Royal Family must be quite grateful for their Russian connections. They are definately not short of magnificent jewellery. I think most European Royal Families who had Romanov connections either by marriage or otherwise ended up with a shower of wonderful jewels.
Marie Chantel for her fathers billions, has a miserable, poor looking little tiara. One would think with all that money she could have made more of an effort.

[Ilias_of_John]

Eric,
The Greek Royal Family does not sell its heirlooms,

Well whatever the arguments are, the Greek Royal Family must be quite grateful for their Russian connections. They are definately not short of magnificent jewellery. I think most European Royal Families who had Romanov connections either by marriage or otherwise ended up with a shower of wonderful jewels.
Marie Chantel for her fathers billions, has a miserable, poor looking little tiara. One would think with all that money she could have made more of an effort.

Isn't there a rule somewhere about gentlemen and their manners?
Would you like to tell that to her husband or father-in-law?
I would suggest that you remove that comment!

[Carolath Habsburg]

i dont think that fringe tiara is a miserable poor looking tiara. Simple, yes, but awesome

[ashdean]

i dont think that fringe tiara is a miserable poor looking tiara. Simple, yes, but awesome

The tiara is a particulary fine example of a very popular style.....perhaps not on par with Queen Alexandra's or the Liechtenstein example but not a paltry example either..

[Eric_Lowe]

That is not true. The Greek Royal family does sell its heirlooms. There was a big sale on Prince Peter of Greece's heirlooms in Athens years ago, and another on the sapphire and diamond set that belonged to Princess Eugenie of Greece that just recently went on to the block (togather with a diamond and pearl brooch that belonged to Queen Olga). My friend Arturo Beeche bought objects that belonged to Prince Nicholas of Greece and Queen Olga. The list could go on...

[grandduchessella]

From sources on the jewels boards it was a wedding present from her parents.

[Ilias_of_John]

Hi,

Maybe Marie Chantel doesn't want another tiara...
After all, she lives in New York City and there aren't many reasons to wear a tiara there, even if your in-laws are greek Royalty...

It was probably more de rigeur in the old days to show up in Europe in a tiara, but even there now, it's not often seen...

Larry

Larry,
didnt they hold a big party at their house in London for the Kings birthday last month?
They live in London, at least most of the time.
Crown Prince Pavlos' business is based in New York, yes, but its not hard to deal on the internet or the phone these days!

[PAVLOV]

I have not seen her wearing this tiara before, only a very underwhelming one which was not exciting by any standards. This looks like an old piece and in the Russian Kokoshnik style. Are you sure it is not an inherited ? Looks very Russian to me.

Beautiful, and so is she.
Ilias, are you accusing me of not being a gentleman ?

This is a discussion forum, and the wonderful thing is that one can sometimes " stir the pot ' to get a reaction.
I suspect from your posts that you are Greek, and I assure that I am an ardent "fan" of the Greek Royal family, who have always been victims of Greek politics, which I am sure you will agree, is a very bumpy road. ( Even now )

I think King Constantine is a true gentleman and a victim of so many fabrications and false accusations. The fact that he is not a bitter man is a true reflection of his courage and wonderful character.

I truly wish the Greeks would take him back as their King, I think he has so much to offer his country. He could really make a positive difference. 
 

[grandduchessella]

I have not seen her wearing this tiara before, only a very underwhelming one which was not exciting by any standards. This looks like an old piece and in the Russian Kokoshnik style. Are you sure it is not an inherited ? Looks very Russian to me.


 

There are a lot of experts on these various forums, some with very good connections in the royal & jewel fields. All that I've read from them seem to indicate it was a wedding present from her parents. I think the Greek fringe tiaras are accounted for? The style might have been picked to resemble the heirloom ones and reflect the heritage of the family.

[Eric_Lowe]

Yes. The style is old and maybe an heirloom from someone. However it did not seem to come out of the Greek Royal Family. The Russian fringe was a popular style and quite a number had been made by Cartier, Brolin among the many jewelers of the day. 

[PAVLOV]

Yes this style of tiara was popular, it seems as if almost every Royal family had one. I think the one the Queen owns is the best example I have seen.
Anyway, we are way off topic here are'nt we ?

[PAVLOV]

Was Queen Frederika of Greece wealthy in her own right ? The Greek Royal family was not very wealthy compared to many other Royals in Europe. At least, according to the books I have read. The reason I am asking this question is because in 1954 ( as everyone here probably knows ) she arranged what must have been a very expensive cruise, in a luxurious passenger liner called the Agamemnon. She invited 100 Royals on this 13 day cruise as her guests. Unless of course the ship was lent to her by a wealthy shipowner. She never appeared to be short of money during her lifetime. Perhaps she inherited from her family ?
She certainly had style and taste and seemed to enjoy being Queen of Greece, and made the most of it, despite her regular disagreements with Greek politicians. Given the historical and ongoing political problems in Greece, she would probably have had the same issues had she been Queen 50 years earlier, or even later.
I think she was great, but overstepped the mark and became unpopular because she was too outspoken, and perhaps medled in things a bit too often.

[Eric_Lowe]

I don't think as a Princess of Hannover she was "that" well off. However Frederica was friendly with businessmen in Greece and I guess they funded her projects.

[royal_netherlands]

[royal_netherlands]