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Alixz

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« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2011, 08:21:05 AM »
I don't know why I thought it was Maria who was saved and married the protagonist.  It has been a long time, but I ordered the book for 99 cents and I will be rereading it soon.

Sorry if I was wrong.

Ian (UK)

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« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2011, 09:15:53 AM »
   Don't fret Alixz, these things happen. As a matter of fact I'm enjoying this much more than Devoted friends.

Olga Bernice

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« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2011, 10:02:56 AM »
I wonder why it's always Tatiana & Anastasia who survive? According to fiction, of course.

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« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2011, 10:20:32 AM »
I wonder two.

Personally, I find them the least likeable of the girls. Tatiana was too much of a goody-goody for my tastes, and I would rapidly lose patience with Anastasia's impish ways. Olga is my favourite among them.

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« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2011, 05:59:27 PM »
I just got The Buckingham Palace Connection.  I checked the last page. (I had to after all this controversy)  It is Marie who marries the hero.

Spoiler alert - Tatiana entered a religious order and went to West Africa as a nurse.

I know my memory is failing - but I just knew that I remembered this one right!

Olga Bernice

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« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2011, 06:04:05 PM »
Umm . . . Ann, I sort of agree with you, but IMO, Tatiana just tryed to please everybody that she knew. I think that it was expected of Anastasia to be the clown, and everybody liked her to be. Maria is my favorite, if I had to choose. At first it was because she was the prettiest (terrible reason, I know) but as I learned about her characteristics I stil liked her as much. Olga is . . . she was probably the smartest, and I admire her for that. To me, they were all special in their own ways.

Anyhoo . . .
I wonder why it's always Tatiana & Anastasia who survive? According to fiction, of course.

PS: And Alixz - 2 of the girls survive? Really? Tell us more!  ;)

Alixz

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« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2011, 06:19:31 PM »
Let me read the book over again.  I just went to the last page to set my memory straight.  I think that others may have survived in this one, too.  But I have to re read it.  It is short and won't take long.

I will probably be done by tomorrow night  latest.
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Olga Bernice

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« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2011, 06:28:32 PM »
Oh, don't rush, I can wait!  ;)

Alixz

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« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2011, 09:57:52 AM »
I am just a a fast reader.  Finished 1l2 the book last night.

I thought there was reference to the other young Imperials  - but now I see the "children" may refer to other fictional characters.  But the only way to find out is to read it and so I will.

Olga Bernice

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« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2011, 07:21:16 PM »
Well, update us when you're finished! ;) But take your time. Really - don't want to rush you!

Alixz

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« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2011, 11:21:57 PM »
OK - done reading.  This is the correct ending.  But read it anyway, there is so much more contained in it that is interesting and enjoyable.

I said I read very fast.  Years of reading and research!


I just got The Buckingham Palace Connection.  I checked the last page. (I had to after all this controversy)  It is Marie who marries the hero.

Spoiler alert - Tatiana entered a religious order and went to West Africa as a nurse.

I know my memory is failing - but I just knew that I remembered this one right!


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« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2011, 07:14:23 AM »
'I think that it was expected of Anastasia to be the clown, and everybody liked her to be.'

My prejudices are showing. Being an eldest, and expected to be sensible, I have no patience with youngers whose silliness is indulged!

I'm not keen on Marie either because she tended to be silly.

Apologies for mixing up the ending - it is over 20 years since I read the book.

Ann

Alixz

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« Reply #57 on: August 21, 2011, 10:35:55 AM »
I truly have no patience with the "Anastasia" crowd either.  Children should be seen and not heard and should never be indulged in their antics.

Ah, for the old days when parents didn't have to be friends with their children and could just be parents.  There is still a word called "no" in every language.  It is never used often enough today and it looks like it wasn't used often enough in the Imperial Family where Anastasia was concerned.

I, on the other hand, am the youngest.  I would never have been indulged the way Anastasia was and I have no complaints about that at all.  It made me a better person to know that I wasn't the center of attention and that I had to conform as everyone else did.

In American English, Anastasia was a brat.  I wouldn't have been able to stand having her around.

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« Reply #58 on: August 21, 2011, 01:12:39 PM »
In English English Anastasia was a spoilt brat. So was Alexei.

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« Reply #59 on: August 21, 2011, 08:03:14 PM »
I agree with you both to a certain extent . . . but when I think of a brat, I think of somebody who totally disobeys her/his parents and doesn't care one iota about what anybody, much less their family, thinks or feels. Whenever I think of Anastasia, I think of a clever young woman who, maybe *should* have been told no a few more times, but she let her personality show and wasn't afraid to. In the way of pranks and jokes, she was brilliant, and perhaps her parents saw this in her and liked to see what she would come up with next. Underneath, I think she was probably caring and sensitive, with all her pranks and smiles just a mask, especially during the revolution and all that happened then. I'd imagine it would have been a comfort to the family to have someone who they could laugh at and enjoy the silly antics of. THAT'S NOT TO SAY that she wasn't considered a brat or spoiled. But those are just my characterizations of her personality.

As for Maria, she was rather silly at times, IMO. But she wasn't nearly as clever as Anastasia or Olga was. She had crushes on officers, she loved romance, she daydreamed - all in all, Nicholas said that he almost considered her an angel. Of course she got in trouble some, but mostly because she was with Anastasia when they were scolded for her pranks. Maria was probably easily swayed, hence Anastasia taking her under her wing. According to most accounts, she was a well-doing person who tried her best to accomodate everyone and please everyone in her own way - indeed, she did not have the same knowledge of her family and mother as Tatiana did, but by being sweet and kind to EVERYONE, even the officers at Tobolsk and Ekaterinburg (the latter she tried to be kind, at least). The times she disobeyed her parents - whenever she ate all her mother's cookies, etc - have made anecdotes because IMO there weren't that many.

Alexei was a whole different ball game, IMO. He was the heir, the son of the Tsar and Empress of Russia, and he was *ill*. I do understand that anybody else with hemophilia would have been forced to live like any other boy - but Alexei suffered so many daily battles, and especially the tough ones - Spala, Stavka, and the one at Tobolsk (if I'm not mistaken - it might have been Ekaterinburg, but I'm pretty sure it was Tobolsk). IMO he had a gentle heart from all the pain he'd endured. He probably was spoiled - imagine Alexandra's heartache! The fate of the monarchy was resting on her shoulders (so it seemed) and she finally give birth to a son-and he was ill! - if I was in Alexandra's position, and had the money at my disposal, I'd probably spoil him too - not intentionally, of course, but just because of that - his illness! Especially since he was the heir.

Anyway, getting back to topic, thank you for your wonderful information, Alixz. I will most certainly check The Buckingham Palace Connection out further.

***All of the first 3 paragraphs up there were my opinion and my characterizations of the youngest Romanov children. Everybody may not agree with them, but I do!!!***