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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2011, 08:59:52 PM »
since she is holding  the drawing  board with her right hand, it is likely Marie is sketching with her left

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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2011, 11:26:18 PM »
I always called that picture the death stare, until a couple of months ago when I figured out she was drawing! :D u just couldn't remember who said that, thanks Sarushka :)

Question: does anyone have a compiled list of all of alexei's hemophilia attacks?

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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2011, 06:20:29 AM »
ahah!!! THEY WERE MUDBLOODS!!! LOL!!
I'm sorry but it was tooo funny!

lol i'm sure that was pretty much they're opinions of the royals summed up in one word, according to william shawcross anyway. tbh though the bowes-lyon family were strong english blood,
wheras most of the royals, as said ,were just a mad mix and very rarely strongly dynastically (is that a word?) linked to their country of origin.

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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2011, 08:53:12 AM »
Question: does anyone have a compiled list of all of alexei's hemophilia attacks?

I don't know of one.

It would depend a lot on how you define "attack." In Aleksei's 1916 diary I was surprised to find many small bouts of hemophilia when he's unable to write because of a sore arm/hand, or confined to bed because of his legs. These incidents weren't life-threatening and only lasted a few days. We're so accustomed to hearing about the handful of major attacks -- Spala, for example, or his December 1915 nosebleed at Stavka -- that I don't think we have a full appreciation for the daily inconveniences that Aleksei endured.

To get a truly accurate list I suspect you'd need full access to the IF's diaries.
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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2011, 10:37:26 AM »
apart from spala and stavka what other major attacks were there? of course there were many minor injuries endured, but any to the extent of those two?
also if alexei had of died at spala, how would he have been brought back to russia, when, and where would he have been taken?
i always assumed by train and to the winter palace...

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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2011, 12:45:54 PM »
I was surprised too Sarushka! I was flipping through Le Tsarevitch, and reading a few passages of the diary here and there, and I was amazed! Could it have been due to something other than a hemophilia attack, like just sore muscles? (when me and my dad started to play ping pong, our muscles were soo sore!)

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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2011, 08:45:45 PM »
In this  photo of AN in a swim suit , one can see many bruises on his legs.... they look pretty beat up and this is when he was well! Seems there were  many " minor " events  that were just a part of his life . Any seepage of blood would cause a bruise and soreness .  The miracle of  Alexei  was  his amazing good spirits and love of life when well . http://s004.radikal.ru/i208/1107/6d/cdd39edd14a8.png

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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2011, 11:43:14 AM »
In 1911, Alexei suffered from pains in his kidneys. There was attack in Poland's Bialowieza in Sept of 1912.  Then remember severe bleeding while he was baby -- in 1908 his heamophila diagnosys was done by the surgeons I am saying from my sources .
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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2011, 02:36:42 PM »
Bialoweiza; Is that Spala?

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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2011, 02:50:40 PM »
Bialoweiza; Is that Spala?

Yep. The tsars had more than one estate in Poland. Bialoweiza was one - here Alexej began to be ill after an accident. Then they moved to Spala, not far, because doctors thought it would be better for Alexej to recover. But once in Spala Alix & Anja V took Alexej on a walk in a cart, he accidentally hit his knee and he had got worse - Spala crisis.

I've gone by memory, so... Nena, am i right? If i'm not please correct me! Thanks!

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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2011, 03:00:10 PM »
I think I remember reading a letter like that; they had the whole road flattened down afterwards.

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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2011, 03:17:23 PM »
I think I remember reading a letter like that; they had the whole road flattened down afterwards.

Yep! But since i've never been so deep interested in Alexej as i'm in OTMA, i'm not keen on details, so i can be wrong - and it would be a real sorrow for me, delivering wrong infos becausew of my bad memory! So when i'm not sure i always ask to be corrected from members who are better than me in a certain subject (and Nena is certainly better than me for those things regarding Alexej!)

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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2011, 04:21:29 PM »
As far as I have understood, Bialowieza and Spala are two different places - the IF moved to Spala later in October of 1912, after Aleksei had suffered the kick by the boat.
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Re: Questions about Alexei (small details)
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2011, 12:49:05 AM »
Yes, i don't know how far they are, but they are both in Poland, i think; so i remember well about 2 accidents.