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Title also known as "Grigori Rasputin: through the eyes of a daughter", as well as (strangely), "Rasputin. Why? The memories of the daughter". Published in 2000, in Moscow by a publisher called I.V. Zakharov. ISBN 5-8159-0063-X.

I am trying to figure out if this is the same book as was published in English, by M. Rasputin, with perhaps with a different title, or is this a whole different book...

Anyone familiar with it?

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I am not familiar with it. It sounds interesting, though . . . Just a quick question, would you happen to know if Maria Rasputina or her siblings ever met OTMAA or even royalty of a lower standard?

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How reliable is this book considered?

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Most probably this book can be considered a falsification. Not surprisingly the name of Radzinsky has been mentioned as a possible author.....

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I had thought it was Maria Rasputina as the author, writing about her experience . . . but then, it wouldn't be very likely, because it was published in 2000. (Then again, what if it was only re-published in 2000? Hmmm . . .)

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Indeed....his daughter did publish a book back in the day. 

"Give my love to all who remember me."

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Most probably this book can be considered a falsification. Not surprisingly the name of Radzinsky has been mentioned as a possible author.....

I personally don't think Maria herself is 100% reliable, but if this is a Russian reprint of one of her existing books, it's unlikely that it has anything to do with Radzinsky. Maria Rasputin's first memoir about her father was printed in 1932, and the last in 1977. As far as I can tell, Radzinsky did not come onto the literary scene until the 1990's.


Just a quick question, would you happen to know if Maria Rasputina or her siblings ever met OTMAA or even royalty of a lower standard?

Yes, she did meet NAOTMAA. You can read about her encounters with the Romanovs in Rasputin: The Man Behind the Myth. She also saw NAM pass by the Rasputin house in a carriage during their transfer to Ekaterinburg.
THE LOST CROWN: A Novel of Romanov Russia -- now in paperback!
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.... She also saw NAM pass by the Rasputin house in a carriage during their transfer to Ekaterinburg.
.... yet another " who can believe it " but true moment in this story

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By Maria Rasputina was published in the 1920s in Franch:
Mon père Grigory Raspoutine. Mémoires et notes. (par Marie Solovieff-Raspoutine) J. Povolozky & Cie. Paris 1923. 107 p.

And in English:
My father University Books, NY 1970. New foreword by Leslie Shepard. 157 p.
as wll as:
My father - Grigorij Rasputin. My thoughts and meditations. NY 1970
Rasputin. The man behind the myth. (by Maria Rasputin and Patte Barham) London 1977

This book:
"Rasputin. Why? The memories of the daughter". Zakharov, Moscow 2000 384 p.
as the foreword explains is written by Maria from 1946-1960.
The manuscript was sent py mail by Mrs X from South America to Moscow in 1999.



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By Maria Rasputina was published in the 1920s in Franch:
Mon père Grigory Raspoutine. Mémoires et notes. (par Marie Solovieff-Raspoutine) J. Povolozky & Cie. Paris 1923. 107 p.

My fault -- the Wikipedia article I referenced must have transposed the last two digits. Serves me right for not double-checking.

Incidentally, Radzinsky himself says of Maria's memoirs:
"Nor are the memoirs of his daughter Matryona much help. Written after she had emigrated, they are the fruit of her own imagination and that of the woman journalist who helped her with them." (The Rasputin File, pg 24)
THE LOST CROWN: A Novel of Romanov Russia -- now in paperback!
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Re: "Rasputin: the memories of a daughter" by Matrena Rasputina (in Russian)
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2011, 11:28:59 AM »
Incidentally, Radzinsky himself says of Maria's memoirs:
"Nor are the memoirs of his daughter Matryona much help. Written after she had emigrated, they are the fruit of her own imagination and that of the woman journalist who helped her with them." (The Rasputin File, pg 24)
lol mr pot, met miss kettle .

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Re: "Rasputin: the memories of a daughter" by Matrena Rasputina (in Russian)
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2011, 12:41:34 PM »
lol mr pot, met miss kettle .

Funny.

I don't think Radzinsky is quite that bad, though. IMO, many of the personal impressions he's formed about the IF through his research have merit. After all, he's had a lot more access to the materials in GARF than most of the authors we tend to take more seriously. That said, I do wish he'd do his readers the courtesy of differentiating between what is fact and what is intuition.
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Re: "Rasputin: the memories of a daughter" by Matrena Rasputina (in Russian)
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2011, 12:49:15 PM »
I agree with you, but could not resist the joke. I think he's quite good if one vitrifies  elsewhere what he says... it can't be on his say so alone....but he's has  interesting  ideas and sees patterns that can be illuminating .

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Re: "Rasputin: the memories of a daughter" by Matrena Rasputina (in Russian)
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2011, 11:42:53 AM »
Just a quick question, would you happen to know if Maria Rasputina or her siblings ever met OTMAA or even royalty of a lower standard?

Yes, she did meet NAOTMAA. You can read about her encounters with the Romanovs in Rasputin: The Man Behind the Myth. She also saw NAM pass by the Rasputin house in a carriage during their transfer to Ekaterinburg.

Ahh, yes, you wrote about that in TLC! *Face-palm* Neato - that was actually true!

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Re: "Rasputin: the memories of a daughter" by Matrena Rasputina (in Russian)
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2011, 01:48:34 PM »
This book:
"Rasputin. Why? The memories of the daughter". Zakharov, Moscow 2000 384 p.
as the foreword explains is written by Maria from 1946-1960.
The manuscript was sent py mail by Mrs X from South America to Moscow in 1999.

Yep, this is the one.. Comes from Russia...