Author Topic: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information  (Read 339918 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Grace

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 3126
    • View Profile
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #240 on: April 19, 2006, 09:03:38 AM »
What a fun topic, Lieven!

The young Victoria:
"The Queen's size is below the middle, but her figure is finely proportioned and a little embonpoint.  Her bust, like most English women's, is very good; hands and feet are small and very pretty.  Her face, though not beautiful, has a look of spirituality, so bright and yet so tranquil that one feels involuntarily impressed with an idea that a good and pure spirit dwells within...Her eyes are blue, large and full; her mouth, which is her worst feature, is generally a little open; her teeth small and short, and she shows her gums when she laughs, which is rather disfiguring".

Also spoken of was her "high colour" or "rosy" complexion and some referred to her having a red face or red nose.  

Of note too, was her voice.  The actress Ellen Terry spoke of it as "like a silver stream flowing over golden stones".  Bernard Shaw also was enchanted by her "beautiful voice", "first rate delivery" and marvellous clarity.

Haven't found anything yet about her hair colour, though.  :-[  
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Grace »

Offline Prince_Lieven

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 6570
  • To Be Useful In All That I Do
    • View Profile
    • Edward III's Descendants
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #241 on: April 19, 2006, 09:24:29 AM »
Thanks Grace!  :D

'Embonpoint' is a term I've come across a few times - does anyone know what it means?  :-?
"How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
-Sherlock Holmes

"Men forget, but never forgive; women forgive, but never forget."

Grantj

  • Guest
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #242 on: April 19, 2006, 09:33:38 AM »
I know this isn't on topic, but I thought it quite a funny.  I've got a book of quotes including one about Queen Victoria taken from an Alan Bennett work entitled "Forty years on" (which I have never heard of!).  It goes something like this:

Lady D:  Is there anything in the newspaper this morning, Withers?

Withers: They have named another battleship after Queen Victoria, ma'am.

Lady D: Another? She must be beginning to think there is some resemblance.

Well, it appealed to my sence of humour anyway!

Grant

Agneschen

  • Guest
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #243 on: April 19, 2006, 09:51:09 AM »
Quote
'Embonpoint' is a term I've come across a few times - does anyone know what it means?  :-?
"Embonpoint" means "stoutness" in French.

Agneschen

  • Guest
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #244 on: April 19, 2006, 10:02:15 AM »
Here is how Queen Louise-Marie of the Belgians described QV to her mother Marie-Amélie after first meeting her :
"Victoria is of diminutive size ... but plump and graceful. I do not think her pretty. She has got large blue eyes, beautiful hair a shade darker than mine [Louise's hair was blond so I guess Victoria's must have been light brown] & bloom rather than a lovely skin. But her mouth is ugly and the lower part of her face short and square. She looks a lot like the Duke of Kent [her father] and the English royal family. I guess she must look like Charlotte [King Léopold's first wife] but less pretty".
Louise later added : "The more I see Victoria the prettier I find her. She is nice & pleasing and her face is charmingly sweet".

Offline royal_netherlands

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1078
    • View Profile
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #245 on: April 19, 2006, 10:37:01 AM »

The first one wenn she was twelve years old and the second one at the time of her coronation.

RN

Offline Prince_Lieven

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 6570
  • To Be Useful In All That I Do
    • View Profile
    • Edward III's Descendants
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #246 on: April 19, 2006, 11:20:44 AM »
Thanks RN and Agneschen! RN, I've never seen that picture of her aged 12, she certainly looks quite blond in it. Oh, and Grant, that appeals to my sense of humour too!  ;D
"How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
-Sherlock Holmes

"Men forget, but never forgive; women forgive, but never forget."

Ra-Ra-Rasputin

  • Guest
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #247 on: April 19, 2006, 11:36:20 AM »
I always thought of Victoria as being dark haired too! It seems that her hair darkened as she got older, though, because she said of Prince Albert when she first met him:

'his hair is about the same colour as mine'.

Unless I'm mistaken, Albert had dark hair, did he not?

I had blonde hair as a child and my hair is now very dark brown.  Perhaps that's what happened to Victoria because in all paintings of her as an adult her hair is depicted as being brown.

It's very annoying not having colour photos of royals during that era!

Rachel
xx

Offline Kimberly

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 3143
  • Loyaulte me lie
    • View Profile
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #248 on: April 19, 2006, 11:42:54 AM »
I remember reading years ago, that Leopold of the Belgians was rather concerned about her small stature and also the way in which she gobbled her food.
Member of the Richard III Society

Caleb

  • Guest
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #249 on: April 20, 2006, 05:26:09 PM »
There was a comment about Queen Victoria from the Empress Dowager of China. "I have heard much about Queen Victoria & read a part of her life which someone has translated into Chinese...still I do not think her life is as half as interesting as mine. Now look at me, I have 300 million people all dependent on my judgement."

ilyala

  • Guest
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #250 on: April 21, 2006, 08:22:31 AM »
i cannot remember the quote and since the book is huge i can't find it but in stanley weintraub's book (read it recently, that's why i'm quoting so much from it... but it's very good!) it says that when turned a teenager, her mother was worried that her hair was turning darker (apparently fair-haired ladies were preferred). so, indeed, it must have been that she was initially light-haired and turned dark-haired... i know people who are like that too

Ra-Ra-Rasputin

  • Guest
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #251 on: April 22, 2006, 12:09:34 PM »
This has been bugging me for ages.

Queen Victoria was christened Alexandrina Victoria, and she was nicknamed 'Drina' as a child.

So, why did she choose to take Victoria as her name when she became Queen rather than Alexandrina? Was there a specific reason why she couldn't, or did she just prefer Victoria?

Queen Alexandrina sounds rather nice, I think! ;)

Rachel
xx

Prince_Christopher

  • Guest
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #252 on: April 22, 2006, 12:13:59 PM »
She didn't like it!

Caleb

  • Guest
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #253 on: April 22, 2006, 12:39:13 PM »
In my own opinion Alexandrina probably reminded Victoria of her depressing & lonely childhood, as well as her uncles, who were always involved in some scandal or another.

Yseult

  • Guest
Re: Queen Victoria & Prince Albert--Photos and Information
« Reply #254 on: April 22, 2006, 12:51:10 PM »
I just can speculate...

Alexandrina was choosen to honoured the godparent of the Kents baby...the tsar Alexander I of All the Russias. The king George IV was really unfair to his brother Edward and his siter in law Victoria the day they christened their newlyborn daughter...Edward suggested a lot of names connected with the english royalty, as Charlotte, Georgiana and Elizabeth, but the king declared that she would be named Alexandrina for the godparent. And, then, he suggested -perhaps ordered...- the second name would be the same of the mother.

But Drina never liked the russians...I imagine that, while she grew up, she heard a lot of coments about the ill-fated Juliane of Saxe-Coburg, sister of her mother. So, when she refused the first name and adopted the second name, she was rejecting the russians and, by the way, honouring her mother. At this time, Drina was not so lovely and gentle with her mother...but maybe it was a little confort to the dowager duchess of Kent.