Author Topic: New Nicholas & Alexandra Video - Mini Series? Part I  (Read 225325 times)

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Robert_Hall

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« Reply #105 on: March 31, 2012, 03:58:12 PM »
Yes, it did, edubs.j That is why I responded so vehemently. Judi Dench would also be good and she is also an excellent, versatile actress.
Nicholas ? I do not know. I have favourite actors like Johnnie Depp,  and all but, do not think they would fill the role. Remember, all these people cost money. There is a huge talent pool out there, We are just talking about superficial choices. Cher once said she wanted to play an empress,  but her movies tend to flop.
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« Reply #106 on: March 31, 2012, 07:04:42 PM »
I like her too, but her looks are all wrong for Alix ...

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« Reply #107 on: March 31, 2012, 07:19:02 PM »
Oh, of course.  I might see her in a shadow role.
 Movie magic can do wonders,  Brad Pitt, anyone ? I think I would prefer someone more Euro though.

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« Reply #108 on: April 01, 2012, 02:55:56 AM »
Robert, might Colin Firth fit the bill..........or, and this is a bit of a leap in the dark, Robert Powell, diminuative enough in stature, who many years ago, gave a very fine performance as Jesus of Nazareth.

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« Reply #109 on: April 01, 2012, 08:33:21 AM »
Yes, Feo. Colin Firth sounds good. I am also thinking of a Russian actor's name whom I like very much.  I have no idea what he is like in real life but he sort of reminds of Peter Falk.

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« Reply #110 on: April 01, 2012, 02:21:22 PM »
Hmm...as mentioned before on this thread and on the forum, Meryl Streep as Alexandra. She is a brilliant actress, and I think she could pull off Alexandra very well.

As for Nicholas, I have to think of that one.

Robert_Hall

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« Reply #111 on: April 01, 2012, 02:36:47 PM »
Yes, we have all these great actresses lined up. but the men ?

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« Reply #112 on: April 01, 2012, 04:45:40 PM »
Hmmm....yes that is tough at the moment.

Can anyone think of one for Rasputin at all?

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« Reply #113 on: April 01, 2012, 07:27:44 PM »
How about Joaquin Phoenix! lol
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« Reply #114 on: April 01, 2012, 07:54:15 PM »
Yeah, I could see him as Rasputin.
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« Reply #115 on: April 01, 2012, 09:08:03 PM »
I'm coming into this discussion of a miniseries a little late, but I've just read through this thread with great interest.   I'm not an academic and certainly no writer,  but I am wondering if anyone here gave any thought to somehow incorporating the forensic findings of the IF remains as a way of pulling in a larger audience.   Seeing as how CSI is so popular with American audiences, I would think that this angle might be employed to, at the very least, draw in those who still may think there just might be survivors of that terrible night.   From what I've read on this thread so far, you all seem to agree that the focus should be on NAOTMAA and the history leading up to their murders rather than the entire Romanov clan.  I got this idea when reading your comments about beginning and ending with the basement room in Ipatiev house.   What grabs my heartstrings when thinking of the tragedy is a vision of a sun-filled meadow surrounded by those beautiful tall birch trees towering over the newly dug pit that finally revealed the awful truth.  As others have said, the true story of the Romanovs is interesting in itself without embellishment.   But many people who are not as knowledgeable of the true facts look upon this era as fairytale and don't realize it all occurred not so long ago.   Perhaps by starting out with the most recent events (the exhumation of the Imperial remains and subsequent DNA identification) with the rest of the story as a flashback, more people would identify with and want to explore more of the story.   Just my humble opinion.   

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« Reply #116 on: April 01, 2012, 09:25:58 PM »
Another aspect I'd like to weigh in on is the portrayal of OTMA.   Again, my views here are that of an observer rather than of a writer.   All the girls had diaries and there are enough poignant stories from teachers/nurses/etc. that we have an idea of what each of their young hopes and dreams for the future might be.   Look at the impact Anne Frank had on an entire generation of young girls.  I can't believe a good writer couldn't do the same with OTMA without embellishing the truth.   I am very optimistic about this project you all are thinking of undertaking.   Please don't let this dream die.   The only help I can offer is moral support from the sidelines, so here I am being the cheerleader.   

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« Reply #117 on: April 01, 2012, 09:43:42 PM »
Very nice comments Maria. I'd like to think that we alone here on the AP would be capable of getting such a project off the ground but unless we managed to help inspire a successful filmmaker or someone with a lot of dough this probably will remain just a fantasy. I expect to see some things come out about the IF and revolution in a few years as we commemorate the hundreth anniversary of events, by my guess is that this will be more along the lines of documentary specials then films or full blown miniseries'.

Regardless I really like your CSI angel. It makes me think a lot about the film "JFK" that was very successful (albeit based on a lot of fiction) that explored the investigation and supposed government cover up of the Kennedy assassination in the years that followed rather than focusing on Kennedy's life/death/Presidency.

Very interesting!
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« Reply #118 on: April 01, 2012, 10:03:19 PM »
Thanks Eric.  Just want to point out that I don't think the main focus should be of the forensic angle, just as an opener to grab people with realism.  Also, I hope no one was turned off by my suggestion.  My vision was not one of gorey forensic details but in hopes that it could be portrayed in an interesting, respectful way.

As far as this miniseries just being a dream - well, all great things grow from tiny seeds.   Keep the faith.

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« Reply #119 on: April 02, 2012, 01:42:13 AM »
Very nice comments Maria. I'd like to think that we alone here on the AP would be capable of getting such a project off the ground but unless we managed to help inspire a successful filmmaker or someone with a lot of dough this probably will remain just a fantasy. I expect to see some things come out about the IF and revolution in a few years as we commemorate the hundreth anniversary of events, by my guess is that this will be more along the lines of documentary specials then films or full blown miniseries'.

Regardless I really like your CSI angel. It makes me think a lot about the film "JFK" that was very successful (albeit based on a lot of fiction) that explored the investigation and supposed government cover up of the Kennedy assassination in the years that followed rather than focusing on Kennedy's life/death/Presidency.

Very interesting!



  I, too, have been following with interest, the pros/cons of this subject's discussion.  I respect the stance/passions that each individual has contributed, but I get the impression in all the flurry of projections of who would be good to portray whom, that a key element is not emphaised enough, and you,"edubs31," (as well as Robert, and possibly a few others) have clearly hit the proverbial nail on the head.  May I quote you verbatim?   "I'd like to think that we alone here on the AP would be capable of getting such a project off the ground but unless we managed to help inspire a successful filmmaker or someone with a lot of dough this probably will remain just a fantasy."    WELL SAID!
  You (globally) may have what you think is a winner, but if you cannot acquire backing (read "MONEY"), forget it.  The idea is to not satiate what is admittedly a small niche group of "fans", but to appeal to the wider money-spending audience and to gain greater profit over expenses.  Altruism just left by the rear door.  Reality has taken its place.  Three pertinent examples come to mind to illustrate the attitude/need of substantial acceptance/backing with the very real expectations of profit:
     A. I have used this example before:  Several years ago, a member of the Forum seemed personally piqued (she had an agenda) that not enought attention was been directed toward making a movie about the Grand Duchess Anastasia N. This was AFTER the dreadful Fox musical/cartoon, and she wanted more realism, historically depicted.  When no one seemed to give much encouragement on this, she wryly commented with naive braggadocio, words to the effect: "Then I'll do it myself."   Several weeks later, I had the opportunity to be at a social occasion, wherein representatives (who COULD move things) from a certain motion picture studio attended. ostensibly to "scout" for new ideas, etc.  At a private moment, I spoke with one (who interestingly DID have a working knowledge of the Romanovs and Anastasia), and repeated the feelings of the Forum member about the need for such a film.  He listened politely, smiled over his drink glass and asked," And on what planet does she live?"  I smiled in return.      
     B.  Then there is the case of the popular book, "The Kitchen Boy."  Great enthuasium seemed to swell for the push to become a movie.  Was not untimately a screenwriter hired?   One Forum member here announced with great glee that he had wonderful news:  he had heard from the author, Robert Alexander, by mail, that the filming was to begin and that the movie would be in the cinemas in 2011 !   Well, here we are in 2012 and has anyone else further information on its progress or lack thereof?  It would seem that the finding of the last two bodies "killed" (no pun intended) any forward motion.  
    C.  Passionate "pushes" often cause people to loose focus on sequential steps to be overcome on the torturous process to a finished production. This Forum has an experience of a member (from whom nothing has been heard for several years (2008, I believe). It would be an interesting exercise to read his emotionally-caught-up involvment in trying to get a screen-play of his brought to fruition.  Please refer to the following, most are quite short:  "Films and TV Shows about the Romanovs and Imperial Russia/APA FORUM EXCLUSIVE:  The Testament Summary."  Then: "Discussion about the Imperial Family and European Royalty/Tsarevich Alexei N.: Re the Influence of Pierre Gilliard on Alexei "   In addition there are the topics "The Testament/Weekly Summary" and "The Testament/ (Crown of Blood)."  If you get lost, you can follow his name in detailing his hoping that an "Oscar" could be won by his cinematographer, the continued planning, revising, writing, re-fining,etc.  It seems that he ultimately disappears and we have no real update as to the situation, though a bit later a friend states that he is going through some difficult times. Unrealistic? Wasted time? Poor sequence planning? Poor selling of the idea, leading to no backing?  Only he knows, but one must be prepared "to endure the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune."
       It is all right to "build castles in the air, but NOT to live in them." If you do, then everything after that is indeed a "fantasy."  These are my observations, rightly or wrongly. I truly have no further/real interest in the topic.   Regards,  AP.
  
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