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Re: Diaries of tsar Nicholas & Empress Alexandra
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2012, 04:55:07 AM »
Georgiy, personally I think that if the diaries of the Tsar are unabridged, that you can consider the diaries of the Empress Alexandra also unabridged.

So, if you want to order them, its is possible at Van Hoogstraten: www.hoogstaten.nl
And on the moment, the only bookstore, who sells them.
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Re: Diaries of tsar Nicholas & Empress Alexandra
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2012, 08:20:57 AM »
Is the 1917 diary of the Empress unabridged? I've only seen parts of it in a Russian book before.

If you want to read the original Russian it's available unabridged in this set.
THE LOST CROWN: A Novel of Romanov Russia -- now in paperback!
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Re: Diaries of tsar Nicholas & Empress Alexandra
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2012, 01:34:37 AM »
Is the 1917 diary of the Empress unabridged? I've only seen parts of it in a Russian book before.
If you want to read the original Russian it's available unabridged in this set.
Didn't the Empress write her diaries in the English language? Nicholas' diaries in this Russian edition may present the original texts, but the Empress' are Russian translations.
As the original of her 1917 diary apparently got lost, the Russian translation of her 1917 diary that was made in the 1920s and is now held at the state archive in Moscow nevertheless may be the closest to an original that has been preserved.
"The Correspondence of the Empress Alexandra of Russia with Ernst Ludwig and Eleonore, Grand Duke and Duchess of Hesse. 1878-1916"  -  http://www.bod.de/index.php?id=296&objk_
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Re: Diaries of tsar Nicholas & Empress Alexandra
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2012, 08:30:40 AM »
Didn't the Empress write her diaries in the English language? Nicholas' diaries in this Russian edition may present the original texts, but the Empress' are Russian translations.
As the original of her 1917 diary apparently got lost, the Russian translation of her 1917 diary that was made in the 1920s and is now held at the state archive in Moscow nevertheless may be the closest to an original that has been preserved.

You're absolutely right -- I misspoke. Thanks.
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Re: Diaries of tsar Nicholas & Empress Alexandra
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2012, 04:31:13 PM »
Thanks for the information!

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Re: Diaries of tsar Nicholas & Empress Alexandra
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2012, 07:01:58 PM »
It looks like the Russians have problems with diaries ect getting lost. I have heard from a Beligan historian that in 1940 they tried to evacuate the belgian army records to England in to batches. The first which had records up to August 1918 made it. The second which had all the records from later on was captured by the Germans. They kept them in storage near berlin and the Russians captured them in 1945. The Belgians didn't get them back until after the fall of Communism and it required a visit from their King to do this. There are gaps in the records and the Russians don't know where they are. If someone was to stumble upon them you might want to let the beligans know. As for the missing OTMA diaries they may have burned their last ones but based on the above it appears they may have been lost or stolen. Who knows someone might find one or more some day. Note: I have heard of records being stolen or lost by the british PRO and the US National archives. Just thought you would like to know.

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Re: Diaries of tsar Nicholas & Empress Alexandra
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2012, 10:54:18 AM »
I just received my copy of the diary of tsar Nicolas from from Hoogstraten books in The Hague. (easy way for me, since I live in The Netherlands)
I must admit, I was hoping for a better looking book, as shallow as that may sound. (it looks a bit like a boring textbook, I am sorry to say)
But reading tsar Nicolas his own words, knowing what we know now, makes owning this book very special and I am really happy with it.

greetings, Griae