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Christmas for the Romanovs
« on: November 30, 2012, 06:45:47 PM »
There was a thread about the Romanov celebrating Christmas.  I'd like to establish a new thread which takes us into their holiday season. Added to their Christmas let us attach traditions, quotes from books as well as photographs.   Anything you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2012, 10:36:21 PM »
A few lines an quotes taken from "Six Years in the Russian Court" involving Christmas...

On her head she wore the kokoshnik, the crescent-shaped head-dress, in white brocade, lavishly decorated with large single stone diamonds. A rich lace veil depended from it and hung at the back almost to her knees. -- Margaretta Eager referring to the Empress

"Oh! Mama, you are just like a lovely Christmas tree!" -- Olga Nikolaevna

We had our Christmas tree as usual, and little Marie was specially delighted with it, as she could not remember anything of the kind. She said to the Emperor, who was just beginning to get about, "Papa, did you ever see anything so beautiful?" -- Eager in reference to Christmas in the Crimea

On Christmas morning when Olga awoke, she exclaimed at once, "Did God send for cousin Ella's body in the night?" I felt startled at such a question on Christmas morning, but answered, "Oh no, dear, not yet." She was greatly disappointed, and said, "I thought He would have sent for her to keep Christmas with Him." -- Eager discussing Christmas after the death of Princess Ella in 1903

One day Marie was looking at a picture of Nydia, the blind girl of Pompeii; she asked me why she was blind. I replied that God sometimes made people blind, but none knew why. So she said, "I know someone who knows." I said, "No, dear, I think not; no one knows." "Cousin Ella knows," came the answer; "she is in heaven, sitting down and talking to God, and He is telling her how He did it, and why." -- Eager again with Marie Nikolaevna that same Christmas

The children used to make their own Christmas and birthday presents for their parents, generally some needlework. Once the little Grand Duchess Olga, in spite of my remonstrances, worked a kettle-holder for the Emperor. It had a little kettle singing on a fire, and "Polly, put the kettle on," worked on it, and she grounded it in blue. I made it up for her with a ruche of blue ribbon all round, and she admired it immensely...When Christmas came she presented it to her father, saying, "Nana is afraid it won't be much use to you, it is a kettle-holder, but you can put it on your table for a mat, or hang it on the wall for a picture. Just see the pretty little frame round it." -- Eager on Olga Nikolaevna




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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2012, 12:03:12 PM »
Of Olga N. and Marie N., can we say all together now, "'Aww" How sweet. Though obviously privileged and exposed to remarkable luxury, , these young girls were in fact capable of being enchanted  and intrigued by the simplest of things, as these anecdotes attest.

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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2012, 12:56:00 PM »
Those are some great quotes, edubs31. I really need to read "Six Years in the Russian Court." I've skimmed it, but don't remember those anecdotes.



Here is a link to one of the other Christmas threads:
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=8630.msg467314#msg467314

And then Bob posted this in another Christmas thread:

Christmas was a very big deal and had been celebrated in the palaces for a long time prior to Nicholas and Alexandra.  Alix's tree in the Mauve Room was flocked in white and had mauve ornaments - all their trees had electric lights.

The mauve glass ornaments are described as being very beautiful.

I wish I could transport myself to GARF and sit for days and just go through the photo albums - there is SO MUCH there that could tell us so much more about things like Christmas...

We were lucky to find a big silver spoon from the Dowager Empress inscribed Christmas tree - with the date,  This would have been a great gift for a servant....
« Last Edit: December 01, 2012, 01:02:41 PM by EmmyLee »

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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2012, 05:28:08 PM »
I was just wondering: What was a typical Russian Christmas like? Did the Romanov family celebrate it slightly different to the Western World?

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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2012, 11:51:14 PM »
Thanks EmmyLee, most of Eager's book has been so heavily quoted elsewhere that you are probably already getting a lot of it through other sources. That said it's a fairly quick and mostly lite read...not to mention sweet as all get out! And of course is available to us for free compliments of the wonderful AP!

Jen, someone more knowledgeable than I can hopefully answer your questions with specifics. Referencing the Eager book again one of the things I remember reading was her talking about how Christmas, while certainly an important holiday, was not celebrated to degree that Easter was.

I'm often surprised how in the western world, speaking here as an American at least, how Christmas is undoubtedly the #1 holiday and Easter for many gets relegated to somewhat minor status by comparison. obviously the commercialization and gift giving aspect has a lot to do with that but even most Christians would probably rank Xmas (and then our Thanksgiving and maybe even the 4th of July) over Easter in terms of importance.

However from a religious standpoint I'd have to consider it the more important of the two major holidays. The birth of course is important but it goes without saying...as every famous and influential person had to born in order to be of consequence in the first place. It's the resurrection that is truly the defining aspect and signature moment for the Christian religion. I guess maybe the IF and Russian Orthodoxy understood this in a way that we don't...
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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 01:03:19 AM »
Russians have their Christmas meal on Christmas Eve. As the Advent fast is continuing at this point, the traditional 12 courses omit meat, milk and eggs, but there is special bread, red wine and lots of candles. St Nicholas pays a visit rather than Father Christmas.

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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2013, 02:34:46 AM »
There is more information about Christmas in:
Later Memoirs of Anna Vyrubova - http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/2anna1.html
and here - http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/romanov-christmas-tsarskoe-selo-1907.html

This one from Lili Dehn's memoirs.
[Chapter 3] "There was a gigantic Christmas tree, the grand duchesses and the Tsarevich thouroughly enjoyed and busied themselves in the distribution of friendship's offerings. The Empress had one curious fancy in connection with her Christmas trees: she always insisted upon blowing out the candles herself, and she was quite proud because she was able to extinguish the topmost candle by some extraordinary effort of breathing."


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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2013, 10:09:51 AM »
People always seem to forget the main APTM site. LOL..


http://alexanderpalace.org/palace/romanov-christmas-tsarskoe-selo-1907.html

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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2014, 05:12:23 PM »
Prose poem B. Manning «Christmas Greetings», rewritten Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna mother Empress Alexandra Feodorovna to Christmas. 1906. (From a personal fund of Empress Alexandra Feodorovna. F. 640.Op.1. D.335. Ll.21-22).

http://www.statearchive.ru/assets/images/new_year/fond640_01.jpg

http://www.statearchive.ru/assets/images/new_year/fond640_02.jpg

G. Burnside poem "New Year's Wishes", rewritten Grand Duchess Tatiana Nikolaevna mother Empress Alexandra Feodorovna to Christmas. 1906. (From a personal fund of Empress Alexandra Feodorovna. F. 640.Op.1. D.335. Ll.25-26).

http://www.statearchive.ru/assets/images/new_year/fond640_03.jpg

http://www.statearchive.ru/assets/images/new_year/fond640_04.jpg

Congratulations to Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna parents - Nicholas II and Empress Alexandra Feodorovna with Christmas. December 25, 1907 (From the personal fund of Empress Alexandra Feodorovna. F. 640. Op. 1. D. 335. Ll.73-74).

http://www.statearchive.ru/assets/images/new_year/fond640_05.jpg

http://www.statearchive.ru/assets/images/new_year/fond640_06.jpg

Noel poem by Theophile Gautier, rewritten Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna mother Empress Alexandra Feodorovna to Christmas. December 24, 1910. (From a personal fund of Empress Alexandra Feodorovna. F. 640. Op.1. D. 335. Ll.195-196).

http://www.statearchive.ru/assets/images/new_year/fond640_07.jpg

http://www.statearchive.ru/assets/images/new_year/fond640_08.jpg

Figure (watercolor) Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna "Merry Christmas." December 25, 1910. (From a personal fund of Empress Alexandra Feodorovna. F. 640. Op.1. D. 335. L. 203).

http://www.statearchive.ru/assets/images/new_year/fond640_09.jpg

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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2014, 09:31:19 AM »
These are incredibly sweet. Thanks for posting Joanna!

That last one of Anastasia using the water colors especially so! Really quite good for a nine year old.
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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2014, 11:18:04 AM »
Sounds like a nice Christmas.
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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2014, 06:11:40 AM »
What a stunning post by Joanna - thank you! One can really say the girls tried their best while re-writing those poems.

However the last drawing I have always seen attributed to Maria, not Anastasia. Romanovs - Love, Poer and tragedy had it labelled as Maria´s artwork, and it is not the only instance I have seen it labelled it as such.


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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2014, 09:06:28 AM »
What a stunning post by Joanna - thank you! One can really say the girls tried their best while re-writing those poems.

However the last drawing I have always seen attributed to Maria, not Anastasia. Romanovs - Love, Poer and tragedy had it labelled as Maria´s artwork, and it is not the only instance I have seen it labelled it as such.



Like I said...really quite good for an eleven year old :-)
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Re: Christmas for the Romanovs
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2014, 12:33:02 PM »
Love the poetry, love the watercolors, and I loved the anecdotes posted by edubs.  The one about Olga and the kettle-holder brought a smile to my face as I read it.