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CHRISinUSA

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« Reply #345 on: January 19, 2012, 06:35:42 AM »
I understand your point Ridgeway, and agree that the royals probably wouldn't wish to fill their private rooms with priceless antiques any more than the rest of us.  One does need a comfortable sofa to curl one's feet up on when watching television or reading a book, especially in rooms used by children.  But there is a sizable difference between "practical" and "shabby".  

On another thread a while back was a lively discussion about the furnishing of Balmoral - with pictures of certain rooms today and in Victoria's time.  I was absolutely shocked to see that the rooms looked identical; example, the Queen's Dressing Room had the same tables and chairs sitting in the same exact positions 140 years later!  Only the fabric at the windows and on the floors were slightly different and obviously replaced.  But at least those Balmoral pieces were high quality items.  I call that practical.

In contrast, and from the numerous photos I've seen of the private rooms in the royal residences, I fear the taste of some of the middle royal generation (Anne, Andrew, Edward) leans more to shabby and less to practical.  Quite honestly, the Mirror photos of the Wessex bedroom at Buckingham Palace looked oddly similar to my first apartment back in my university days (which even I'm ashamed today to admit).  Furniture made of light oak veneered plywood has no place in a royal palace, IMO.  THAT I call shabby.

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« Reply #346 on: January 19, 2012, 09:43:35 AM »
I agree, simply ghastly.
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« Reply #347 on: January 19, 2012, 11:10:31 AM »
Found a great floor plan of Balmoral Castle showing the Ballroom and Kitchen Court. Tom thanks for the help with the jpg.



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« Reply #348 on: January 19, 2012, 11:20:12 AM »
Here's another great plan that I don't think has been posted before.  State Apartments at Windsor Castle circa 1819.  Sorry they had to be scanned in two separate files and for the folds in the paper.  These show the former Grand Staircase and the original Chapel between St. George's Hall and the semi State Rooms.  To see larger, including the previous Balmoral plan, right click and view full size.
 

 

 

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« Reply #349 on: January 19, 2012, 12:52:58 PM »
I would agree with you Chris. Anne especially seems to have no taste. However, she has always come off as rather plain and outdoorsy. But, we should remember the Buck House apartments are basically stop overs for London engagements. They all have  far nicer accommodations elsewhere in their own homes. I would wonder actually how much of the palace rooms were put together by the occupants themselves. They could be  arranged and furnished by the Palace housedold,  keeping things cheap for budget reasons. Does this make any sense ?

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« Reply #350 on: January 19, 2012, 01:21:56 PM »
I would agree with you Chris. Anne especially seems to have no taste. However, she has always come off as rather plain and outdoorsy. But, we should remember the Buck House apartments are basically stop overs for London engagements. They all have  far nicer accommodations elsewhere in their own homes. I would wonder actually how much of the palace rooms were put together by the occupants themselves. They could be  arranged and furnished by the Palace housedold,  keeping things cheap for budget reasons. Does this make any sense ?
Anne does not only have no taste she is as tight as they come....frugal..thrifty call it what you want the woman would halve a currant!

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« Reply #351 on: January 20, 2012, 07:41:38 AM »
Thank you Architect for posting the Balmoral castle plans - I've seen the main block before, but never seen the entire structure (with the ballroom and kitchen block included).  Raised a few questions for me.  First, was the Ballroom added at a later time?  (It seems to be, given the odd angle of the corridor connecting it to the main block). 

And also thank you for the early 19th century Windsor plans - copies I've seen previously cut off the large room now labeled "Library" adjacent to the Queen's Drawing Room at the corner where the Queen's and King's apartments intersect.  I know that today that room is part of the Royal Library, housed in the entire extending wing.  But back in the days when these rooms were actually occupied by monarch and consort, was that room divided into multiple rooms - one being the Queen's Bedroom?  The King's suite shows Drawing Room, Bedroom, Dressing Room, and Closet / Writing Room (and with a couple of small closet type rooms behind which likely held his bathroom/ toilet.  But plans never show a corresponding set of rooms for a queen (bedroom, dressing room, toilet).  Where were those located?  Also - what is (and was) located in the rooms above these apartments?  Were those staff rooms, family / guest bedrooms, or something else?

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« Reply #352 on: January 20, 2012, 09:00:48 AM »
Chris, I agree, the connection between the Ballroom and main block is quite peculiar.  I have a Balmoral guide book which has a photo taken September 1857 that shows the Ballroom in place as well as the entire Kitchen Court.  I would assume it was all constructed at the same time.  I'm adding a plan I have of Windsor that hopefully answers your questions about the location of the Queen's private apartments.  These are very early plans.  Unfortunately, I don't have anything on the spaces above the State Apartments. 
 

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« Reply #353 on: January 20, 2012, 05:20:57 PM »
Wow, thanks, I was correct - that Library Room did once house the Queen's bedroom / dressing room! 

Interesting also to see the site of the original staircase, before Brick Court was roofed over and the new Grand Staircase installed there, and to see plans showing Horn Court still in place (prior to IT being roofed over and the Waterloo Chamber built there).  Now I'll have to go back and dig through my later Windsor plans to compare!

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« Reply #354 on: January 25, 2012, 02:04:12 PM »
Royal mews at Buckingham Palace - ground floor plan:


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« Reply #355 on: January 25, 2012, 02:07:12 PM »
Royal yacht Britannia interior-plan:




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« Reply #356 on: February 25, 2012, 02:55:40 AM »
Images of Birkhall in The Queen Mother's Time.

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HM's Sitting Room

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« Reply #357 on: February 25, 2012, 10:25:59 AM »
Lovely! & cosy! Just how a room should be! :)
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« Reply #358 on: March 06, 2012, 09:43:35 AM »
Can anyone identify the room in Buckingham Palace that is in the latest photos on the British Monarchy website.  They are of the Queen's recent audiences and are dated March 6th.

http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsandDiary/Gallery.aspx

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« Reply #359 on: March 06, 2012, 11:26:17 AM »
Figured it out - 18th Century Room.  Here's a link with a nice photo of the space.
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389576/Inside-royal-suite-Obamas-stay-visit-Buckingham-Palace.html