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Re: What Ifs or Alternate Histories
« Reply #405 on: March 31, 2014, 03:53:59 PM »
It's a shame the whole "pretty princesses and beautiful ball gowns" life was lost with the fall of the Great Empires at the end of WWI. I'd rather be a Romanov Grand Duchess than a 21st century student.

What are the chances you'd be a grand duchess in a former life or a current empire? You'd statistically be a poor peasant who'd once in a lifetime walk miles in bad shoes or barefoot in summer to get a glimpse of the grand duchesses on a whistlestop visit to the nearest town in your rural backwater.
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: What Ifs or Alternate Histories
« Reply #406 on: March 31, 2014, 04:16:28 PM »
It's a shame the whole "pretty princesses and beautiful ball gowns" life was lost with the fall of the Great Empires at the end of WWI. I'd rather be a Romanov Grand Duchess than a 21st century student.

What are the chances you'd be a grand duchess in a former life or a current empire? You'd statistically be a poor peasant who'd once in a lifetime walk miles in bad shoes or barefoot in summer to get a glimpse of the grand duchesses on a whistlestop visit to the nearest town in your rural backwater.

Not if you believe in Multiverse theory. Then you are anyone from any time period in history existing right now :-)
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Re: What Ifs or Alternate Histories
« Reply #407 on: March 31, 2014, 04:27:18 PM »
Not if you believe in Multiverse theory. Then you are anyone from any time period in history existing right now :-)

And I'm Marie of Romania.
I am. Really. I'm not an incarnation of her, she was the predicatrix of me!
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: What Ifs or Alternate Histories
« Reply #408 on: April 24, 2014, 01:41:09 PM »
I'm writing a story featuring a surviving Princess Johanna
. With people like Johanna you have virtually a blank slate, but, for example, you can extrapolate from the actions of her parents that life for Princess Johanna in post-war West Germany would not be easy.

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Re: What Ifs or Alternate Histories
« Reply #409 on: April 25, 2014, 10:40:08 AM »
Sounds interesting, Tatiana.  Be sure to post it when you're finished.
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Re: What Ifs or Alternate Histories
« Reply #410 on: April 26, 2014, 02:32:56 AM »
I plan too.
Does anyone have any ideas what it would be like for a young Princess of a former royal house in West Germany?
It's possible she could get mixed up with the post-war "expellees" movement. In the 1950s and 60s they vigorusly demanded the restoration of Germany's 1938 borders. Now that most of the "expellees" have now died ,this issue has died away, of course.

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Re: What Ifs or Alternate Histories
« Reply #411 on: April 26, 2014, 05:47:40 AM »
I'm writing a story featuring a surviving Princess Johanna
. With people like Johanna you have virtually a blank slate, but, for example, you can extrapolate from the actions of her parents that life for Princess Johanna in post-war West Germany would not be easy.

Why? Simply having been a member of the Nazi party was nothing to worry about in post-war West Germany. People far more involved in the Nazi movement were also more or less rehabilitated. E.g. other royals in the federal state of Hesse: The Hesse-Kassels and the Waldecks.  The only slight royals with a Nazi past would experience was that they were shunned by their reigning cousins, i.e. the monarchs of Britain, the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark etc.

I think it was more likely for a young Hessian princess in post-war West-Germany to be caught up in the semi-fascist jetset society in Franco's Spain than to involve herself in the movement of the Heimatvertriebene. As a Hessian she would not have any relationship to the Prussian eastern provinces, unless she became engaged in the cause by having refugees lodged (by the state, against her will) on one of her properties and getting to know them. But she might very well be vehemently anti-Communist and thus anti-DDR and pro-Franco.

Of course a princess from a former reigning family would have a more cosmopolitan outlook than a countess from the rural hinterland of Holstein, but to get a feeling of the life and mores of the nobility in post-war West Germany I highly recommend Mitteilung an den Adel by Elisabeth Gräfin von Plessen.
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Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)