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Buturlin Family
« on: July 23, 2013, 12:03:41 PM »
Hi I'm new to Time machine, and would appreciate any help from members in regards to researching my family roots in Russia. I know I am from direct blood lines from Count Alexander Buturlin. My granfather and his brother where both born in St petersburg than fled to Poland after the revolution where my father was born prior to world war 2. He migrated to Australia in the early 60s after completing Uni in Poland. This is where myself and my brothers and sister where born and live. Although I was born and live so far away from Russia, I feel a strong connection with the land and the people. Any help in where I could start my research from would be great,
Steven Buturlin

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Re: Buturlin Family
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 03:18:08 PM »
Could you please name your grandfather or his brother? It would be easier to search with some names.

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Re: Buturlin Family
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 07:19:15 PM »
Hi my grandfather,s name was Leonid and his brother was George. There parents where Alexander and Maria Buturlin. My dad has told me that Maria was French and also a opera singer. Alexander 's father was named Alexis Buturlin, he was a russian general. I hope this extra info will get me some extra info on my family history.
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Re: Buturlin Family
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 01:00:51 PM »
Here is what I could find about the Buturlin clan in my library:

Oddly, the books seldom give first names for any of the Buturlin's they mention, either using initials or just role titles.

The first mention I could find was of an A. V. Buturlin who was a general during the reign of Alexis in the mid 1650's.  (Warfare, State and Society on the Black Sea Steppe, 1500-1700, Davies)

The next mention is of a General and Vice-Admiral Buturlin of "the Guards", who was among the nobility that resisted Menshikov's grab for influence during the ascension of Peter II.  (Peter the Great, Massie)

The next mention is again of a General Buturlin who was insulted at dinner table by the future Peter III late in Elizabeth's reign.  As this would have been some 25-30 years later than above, this may not be the same Buturlin.  This General Buturlin was also recounted by Catherine II as a heavy drinker.  (Catherine the Great: Portrait of a Woman, Massie)

The next mention is of a Count D. Buturlin who headed a supreme secret committee on censorship as part of Nicholas I's panicked reaction to the revolutions of 1848 in western Europe.  This supreme committee -- popularly dubbed at the time as "The Buturlin Committee" -- was called "censorship over the censors", and was the capstone of the extremes of censorship under Nicholas I that reached such heights that the term "forces of nature" was removed from a physics textbook, and the terms "were killed" were changed to "perished" in a history of Roman emperors describing their demises.  (Nicholas I and Official Nationality in Russia: 1825-1855, Riasnovsky)

This D. P. Buturlin (we pick up the second initial in this source) who headed the Imperial Public Library was among those who, during a bureaucratic dustup between rival censorship factions, denounced to Nicholas those in the Ministry of Education who had supposedly taken Nicholas' mission of purifying public thought too lightly.  (Fighting Words: Imperial Censorship and the Russian Press, 1804-1906, Ruud)  Alexander II dismantled the Buturlin Committee during the first year of his reign as part of a sweeping liberalization of censorship in Russia.

I can find no further mention of any Buturlins, even in books focusing on the end of the empire and the revolutions of 1917 such as Orlando Figes' A People's Tragedy and Douglas Smith's Former People: The Final Days of the Russian Aristocracy.

I hope this gives you a trail or two you can follow to find out more about your forebears.  Some of them do seem to have had rubbed elbows with emperors and empresses.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2013, 01:02:27 PM by Tsarfan »

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Re: Buturlin Family
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 01:23:22 PM »
It occurred to me to look into my very rare first edition copy of the first 1889 "Annuaire de la Noblesse de Russie" for the family.  There is a brief mention of the "Boutourlines", pg. 88.
My loose translation:

Prince Basil Vladimirovich Dolgorukov married the Countess Barbra-Alexandrovna Boutourline, daughter of Count Alexander Borrisovich, Fieldmarshal, died 1767.  No issue.  The footnote #184: "The Boutourlines are descended of Radcha that is to say they came from abroad (Germany?) to Novgorod and the origin of many noble families and notables of Russia, the same as  P.N. Petrov, pretending to be the foundation of the Romanovs (see also the Counts Boutourline)"

Sorry there isn't more to help with here.

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Re: Buturlin Family
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 01:51:03 PM »
There is an Italian author named Tatiana Boutourline whose mother was iranian and father was Anglo-Russian.  In her bio she mentions that her family had escaped "all revolutions", I suppose meaning the overthrow of the Shah and the Russian revolution.  Perhaps another branch of the family?

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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2013, 07:30:11 AM »
Lt General Nikolai Nikolaievitch Buturlin died 1894 was the husband of Olga Mikhailovna (3/101843-16/9/1908).Mme B was one of the 4 Pashkov sisters, daughters of Lt-General Mikhail Vasilevich Pashkov (died 1863) and his wife Maria Trofimovna nee Baranov (died 1887)
Mme B was directress of the Pavlovski Institute for young girls.
One of her sisters Marie (1836-1910)  was the wife of HSH General PrinceVladimir Dimitrievitch Galitzine & the penultimate mistress of the robes to the Empress Alexandra.

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Re: Buturlin Family
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2013, 11:25:28 PM »
Thank you for the information provided. Its given me a definate starting point to my research.
With kind regards
Steven Buturlin