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Just For Fun - Royalty No-one Had a Good Word To Say For
« on: March 19, 2014, 06:59:53 AM »
We've had royalty no-one had a bad word to say for. now for the reverse.

Of couse, when someone is nominated, it is open to anyone else to suggest that the person concerned did have some redeeming features.

To set things going, I nominate Friedrich Wilhelm I of Prussia.

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Re: Just For Fun - Royalty No-one Had a Good Word To Say For
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2014, 09:40:21 AM »
First one that comes to mind is Prince Albert Victor, Eddy, Duke of Clarence.

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2014, 11:48:44 AM »
According to Theo Aronson's biography of Albert Victor, quite a number of his friends wrote to his family after his death, saying how kind and gentle he was.

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Re: Just For Fun - Royalty No-one Had a Good Word To Say For
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2014, 06:21:09 PM »
Leopold II of Belgium, a very unpleasant individual indeed. I will be curious to see if anyone had something positive to say about him!
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Re: Just For Fun - Royalty No-one Had a Good Word To Say For
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 06:42:25 PM »
Leopold II of Belgium, a very unpleasant individual indeed. I will be curious to see if anyone had something positive to say about him!

Unlike many of his collegues, I don't think he opposed the liberal and democratic reforms in his European kingdom.

« Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 06:46:28 PM by Превед »
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Just For Fun - Royalty No-one Had a Good Word To Say For
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 08:59:51 PM »
According to Theo Aronson's biography of Albert Victor, quite a number of his friends wrote to his family after his death, saying how kind and gentle he was.

I hope they got around to telling him that, before he passed away. : P

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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2014, 09:25:34 PM »
An interesting person who usually either is villified or ignored is Eric aka Bogislav of Pomerania (1382 – 1459), King of Norway, Denmark and Sweden.
He let the Kalmar Union carefully crafted by his great aunt Margrethe dissolve. His queen Philippa was a daughter of Henry IV of England. The Hanseatic League and most other foreign powers and merchants also disliked him, as he was the first Danish king who collected the Sound Dues. He ended up losing his thrones and making a living as a pirate on Gotland

A positive light is shed on him from an unsuspected angle, though:
The future Pope Pius II described him like this:
Erik of Pomerania had a beautiful body, red-golden hair, a ruddy complexion and a long, thin neck. (...) Alone, without assistance and without touching the stirrups he mounted the horse and he pulled all the women, especially the Empress, to himself with amorous desire.
You can expect a Pope to see people's good qualities. :-)

One would perhaps also expect that Eric of Pomerania's grandfather Heinrich III der Henker (= the Executioner), Duke of Mecklenburg, to have been a person of whom little good could be said, but I guess he was quite popular among the populace, since the nickname derives from his habit of personally executing the highway robbers which he caught.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 09:33:48 PM by Превед »
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Just For Fun - Royalty No-one Had a Good Word To Say For
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2014, 04:27:56 AM »
Hm, I'm not sure a future Pope saw Erik's amorous exploits in a positive light, but presumably he admired his horsemanship.

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Re: Just For Fun - Royalty No-one Had a Good Word To Say For
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2014, 02:00:47 PM »
Leopold II of Belgium, a very unpleasant individual indeed. I will be curious to see if anyone had something positive to say about him!

Unlike many of his collegues, I don't think he opposed the liberal and democratic reforms in his European kingdom.



Good idea, but I rather think he did not oppose them because they suited him to some extent. I am reminded of his interest in obtaining a "Royal Referendum and veto", which would have given him the power to overturn legislation. When the parliament refused to accept it he was so angry that he considered abdicating but unfortunately (at least for the Belgian Congo) changed his mind.

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Re: Just For Fun - Royalty No-one Had a Good Word To Say For
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2014, 04:35:59 PM »
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Prince Albert Victor, Eddy, Duke of Clarence.


I guess being accused of being Jack The Ripper didn't exactly help his reputation.
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2014, 03:22:48 AM »
True, but that theory has been comprehensively debunked. In any case, his family seem to have been fond of him.

There is Ernest, Duke of Cumberland and King of Hanover, uncle of Queen Victoria, often referred to as 'terrible old Uncle Ernest', and suspected of murdering his valet.

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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2014, 04:57:04 PM »
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True, but that theory has been comprehensively debunked

Yeah, he was at Balmoral when the Ripper murders happened.  Documents clearly show that.
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Re: Just For Fun - Royalty No-one Had a Good Word To Say For
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2014, 09:12:41 PM »
Sarah Ferguson.

Poor girl thought she married the Prince Of England = that's what she said.

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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2014, 09:15:09 PM »
Poor Fergie just can't catch a break.
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2014, 10:06:03 PM »
I know Tim. :) I'd like to say she could catch a beak but........................................