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Re: Queen Elena of Romania / Helen of Greece-Romania
« Reply #285 on: January 24, 2009, 09:32:12 AM »
The photographs of King Michael and Queen Mother Helen were taken at Sinaia

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Re: Queen Elena of Romania / Helen of Greece-Romania
« Reply #286 on: January 25, 2009, 08:40:44 AM »


Poor Helen ! How could it be accused of failing to keep Carol while the union was in any case doomed to failure from the outset !

Their marriage was, let us not forget, above all, a marriage of convenience and we can say that Helen was sacrificed in this story without being asked her opinion.

It was primarily for King Ferdiannd and Queen Marie of Romania to get their son into the fold. But Carol was an unstable apparently quickly tired of his conquests. Thus, he did nothing to keep Zizi Lambrino he had married without his parents are aware and that he even had a child. This was his first abandoned home. Why then would it not again later? What he did actually abandoning helen and Michel.

If he was may be charmed by Helen very early in their marriage, he tired quickly, preferring to attend women less conventional than Magda Lupescu who manages to retain him the dominant mainly through the senses. Helen was too convenient for him. Because, rebellious and unruly, he needed to find a woman in the pretext of defying taboos and upset the established order.

Maybe if Carol had not met Magda Lupescu, he remained married to Helen, while leading a double life, but save face before the world as it was then for many royal couples at the time. But they would not have been happy together.
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Re: Queen Elena of Romania / Helen of Greece-Romania
« Reply #287 on: March 15, 2009, 10:51:56 AM »
Crown Princess Helen in cavalery uniform :





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Re: Queen Elena of Romania / Helen of Greece-Romania
« Reply #288 on: March 15, 2009, 11:25:52 AM »


FYI - Lupescu's first name was Elena, not Magda.

At first she blame Helen for not keeping Carol, but later the two women bonded.

Poor Helen ! How could it be accused of failing to keep Carol while the union was in any case doomed to failure from the outset !

Their marriage was, let us not forget, above all, a marriage of convenience and we can say that Helen was sacrificed in this story without being asked her opinion.

It was primarily for King Ferdiannd and Queen Marie of Romania to get their son into the fold. But Carol was an unstable apparently quickly tired of his conquests. Thus, he did nothing to keep Zizi Lambrino he had married without his parents are aware and that he even had a child. This was his first abandoned home. Why then would it not again later? What he did actually abandoning helen and Michel.

If he was may be charmed by Helen very early in their marriage, he tired quickly, preferring to attend women less conventional than Magda Lupescu who manages to retain him the dominant mainly through the senses. Helen was too convenient for him. Because, rebellious and unruly, he needed to find a woman in the pretext of defying taboos and upset the established order.

Maybe if Carol had not met Magda Lupescu, he remained married to Helen, while leading a double life, but save face before the world as it was then for many royal couples at the time. But they would not have been happy together.
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Re: Queen Elena of Romania / Helen of Greece-Romania
« Reply #289 on: March 15, 2009, 05:59:38 PM »
I know but I look at some periodicals it did put Magda as her name. Maybe it would be too confusing to have two Princesses Elena of Romania.

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Re: Queen Elena of Romania / Helen of Greece-Romania
« Reply #290 on: March 17, 2009, 09:23:35 AM »


FYI - Lupescu's first name was Elena, not Magda.


Whatever happened to old Lupescu?  Was she reburied in Romania with Carol II.

I never understood what Carol II saw in her and how she managed to control him.

It is my understanding that Missy never received her.

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« Reply #291 on: March 17, 2009, 09:55:21 AM »


Well, she inherited his fortune - and in 2003, Lupescu and Carol's remains were brought back to Romania for reburial at the Curtea de Arges - but he's in royal chapel and she's in the cemetery.



FYI - Lupescu's first name was Elena, not Magda.


Whatever happened to old Lupescu?  Was she reburied in Romania with Carol II.

I never understood what Carol II saw in her and how she managed to control him.

It is my understanding that Missy never received her.

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« Reply #292 on: March 17, 2009, 10:40:18 AM »


Well, she inherited his fortune -


Did Carol II have as much money as everyone thought he had?

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Re: Queen Elena of Romania / Helen of Greece-Romania
« Reply #293 on: March 17, 2009, 11:43:52 AM »
He took a lot with him on that train out of Romania ... Michael was never able to get his hands on any of it



Well, she inherited his fortune -


Did Carol II have as much money as everyone thought he had?

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« Reply #294 on: March 19, 2009, 10:47:42 AM »
At first she blame Helen for not keeping Carol, but later the two women bonded.

Guy Gauthier in his  " Missy Queen of Romania", on the contrary claims that Marie has always been a perfect propriety towards her daughter-in-law and that " contrary to what has often been alleged by his enemies, has consistently and faithfully supported her in daughter-in-law with whom, however, she had so far as quite distant relations. Everything that was said about the insurmountable antipathy to Marie for Helen is the gossip and the affabulation ".

He explained that even deep admiration for the extraordinary dignity helen demonstrated in the terrible position where her husband had placed the trial of the queen against her is particularly laudatory wordings : "Helen is full of dignity. She is above all by a wonderful woman inside. She keeps everything - including her son - in perfect order. "
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Re: Queen Elena of Romania / Helen of Greece-Romania
« Reply #295 on: March 22, 2009, 10:23:59 AM »

FYI - Lupescu's first name was Elena, not Magda.



Her real name is actually Helene, but in nightclubs in Bucharest she was joy, she was called " Magda ", small name the Italian press will adopt and will triumph in the world.

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Re: Queen Elena of Romania / Helen of Greece-Romania
« Reply #296 on: March 25, 2009, 02:18:20 PM »
Her real name was Elena, not Helene


FYI - Lupescu's first name was Elena, not Magda.



Her real name is actually Helene, but in nightclubs in Bucharest she was joy, she was called " Magda ", small name the Italian press will adopt and will triumph in the world.


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Re: Queen Elena of Romania / Helen of Greece-Romania
« Reply #297 on: May 03, 2009, 08:03:57 AM »
Queen Elena with her son Mihai :



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« Reply #298 on: June 01, 2009, 11:25:18 AM »
Princess Helen with Prince Carol and Queen Marie of Romania at a public event in 1922 :

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« Reply #299 on: June 22, 2009, 09:43:11 AM »
Queen Mother Helen of Romania (from the National Portrait Gallery) :





Queen Helen with her sister Irene :





This photos shoot took place in 1934, during a residence of the two sisters in London at the wedding of their cousin Marina with the Duke of Kent.
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