Last photos/film: allegedly taken by Yurovsky in the Ipatiev cellar?

[otmafan]

I don't think I'd ever want to see a film of such a good family being murdered in that horrible way. It was too evil to imagine.  

[helenazar]

I don't think I'd ever want to see a film of such a good family being murdered in that horrible way.

 Or any family, or anyone for that matter.

[otmafan]

 Or any family, or anyone for that matter.

Exactly, Helen.

[rskkiya]

Sadly, a LOT of people do seem to enjoy such "films"

[otmafan]

Sadly, a LOT of people do seem to enjoy such "films"

Sick, absolutely sick.

[helenazar]

Sadly, a LOT of people do seem to enjoy such "films"

Yes, they even have a name - "snuff films", but these are very sick individuals who like to watch them...  

[otmafan]

Yes, they even have a name - "snuff films", but these are very sick individuals who like to watch them...  

How sad that people enjoy to watch people dying. Especially brutally.

[James_Davidov]

No, it is almost impossible.  Lenin did not order the executions, the Ural Soviet did, there was no film crew, and frankly, such a thing would have been noticed by the residents of Ekaterinburg, not one ever mentioned such an unusual thing at that time.
It didn't happen.

None of us can say it didn't happen.  Rationally, we all agree it didn't....but nothing is concrete, especially regarding that fateful night.

[rskkiya]

None of us can say it didn't happen.  Rationally, we all agree it didn't....but nothing is concrete, especially regarding that fateful night.

James ...
"None of us can say it didn't happen?"

By that logic "none of us" can say that giant Jackolopes (a hybrid of jackrabbits and antelope) don't exist either!

LOL
rskkiya

[Belochka]

Wasn't Yurovsky a photographer?  
AGRBear

Bear,

Since Yurovsky claimed to have fired first at Nikolai, then logically it would have been impossible for him to hold a bulky camera in the other hand and aim both in the same direction.

The execution produced a smoke filled room from which glowed a simple electric light bulb. This was combined with the powdery dust which emanated from the plastered walls which were destroyed by stray bullets. It was not straight forward, many were injured, but not murdered outright. For it took a second round of rapidfire of guns to complete the task. Such perceived inefficiency is not something Yurovsky would have wanted to have recorded.  

No, Lenin had no cause to "view" the evidence. A communication from the Ural Soviet was sufficient proof. Such a contention is fallacious to the extreme.

[AGRBear]

I guess I was not clear about the book which I assume was fictional.

Then I added about Yurovsky, who was interested in photography.  After the execution was completed,  it wouldn't have stopped him from taking photographs to show the dead in the basement or at the mine to show Lenin the dead.

But,  maybe, he didn't or couldn't since he was missing two bodies.  

AGRBear

[Forum Admin]

Photography at night was VERY difficult in those days, moreso in a tiny room. Also, they didn't WANT people to know what they had done, so WHY take photographs? Remember they wanted to confuse people about the murders and not have any proof in case the Whites won.  Stupid idea to think they would have photos that the Whites could get their hands on lying around somewhere.

[HerrKaiser]

Whether or not photos of film were taken, I disagree that the killers would have necessarily have been so sharp as to not the take pics (if able to) so they would not have been found "lying around". Stolen FBI files were found in the Clintons' living room, so even at the highest levels, fear of being found out doesn't stop people from doing what they want to. Nonetheless, while possible to have been done, I agree it is very very unlikely there are photos for the single reason of inadequate light.

[Elisabeth]

I think it's a ridiculous idea. Yurovsky would never have allowed any of his men - or Ermakov's - to take photographs, much less film the executions, even if it had been possible (which it wasn't, given the technological and time constraints). Yurovsky was a thorough-going, conscientious revolutionary and Bolshevik - very ascetic, methodical, and deliberate. None of that bully-boy, Nazi posturing over the victim for him. It was all business.

[Alice]

I think it's a ridiculous idea. Yurovsky would never have allowed any of his men - or Ermakov's - to take photographs, much less film the executions, even if it had been possible (which it wasn't, given the technological and time constraints). Yurovsky was a thorough-going, conscientious revolutionary and Bolshevik - very ascetic, methodical, and deliberate. None of that bully-boy, Nazi posturing over the victim for him. It was all business.

Also, there simply wasn't time. Siberian Summer nights are very short, so they had only a few hours to execute the family and take the bodies to the forest for disposal, before sunrise . . . I really doubt they were worrying about taking photographs with such time constraints.