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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2014, 05:57:28 PM »
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But what a terrible time to be American, I doubt American airwaves will ever see it.

Ditto with Canada.  Unless our History Channels suddenly remember what they were mandated for and give Pawn Stars the boot.  However, I'm not holding my breath.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2014, 07:57:02 PM »
You can watch the episodes from Canada. I'm about too (once Suits is done). Anyone, from any country, can do this too with the brilliance of the Chrome Browser & the Hola plugin.

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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2014, 10:33:12 PM »
You can watch the episodes from Canada. I'm about too (once Suits is done). Anyone, from any country, can do this too with the brilliance of the Chrome Browser & the Hola plugin.

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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2014, 09:11:34 AM »
You can watch the episodes from Canada. I'm about too (once Suits is done). Anyone, from any country, can do this too with the brilliance of the Chrome Browser & the Hola plugin.

Laura, have any links to share on how one would best go about setting that up? I'm in the States and eager to see this...there has to be a way.
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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2014, 11:55:24 AM »
Laura, have any links to share on how one would best go about setting that up? I'm in the States and eager to see this...there has to be a way.
Absolutely! Sorry about that, I should have done that when I posted about it. My apologies.

Link to Episode(s): http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04fljy7/episodes/guide

Ways to watch
TunnelBear.com - Download this application that will allow you to choose "where" you're viewing the net from
HOLA.org - Download this plugin for Chrome/Firefox/IE, etc and choose "where" you're viewing from as well.

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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2014, 12:10:00 PM »
Nice, thank you!

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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2014, 05:20:31 PM »
D'aww : D
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Re: Russia's Lost Princesses
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2014, 06:23:46 AM »
Found it quite enjoyable, especially the photos and film footage, but the 'Russian' accents were unbearable and hard to understand. Tatiana's 'voice' seemed especially squeaky. Am looking forward to the nextp part.

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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2014, 07:15:27 AM »
The first episode is now available on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMHLVfFs33E

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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2014, 09:03:24 AM »
Thank you for the link!

The documentary was quite good, I enjoyed the footage and pictures (though few were "new" and I have seen al the footage before in various other documentaries provided by Laura at her website frozentears).

However it was posing as something it is not. The proper name of the documentary should have been "Empress Alexandra the Mother". You cannot have a film about four girls, and then not even mention them in the first 30 minutes. And when they fainlly "appear", nothing is made of it, just mentioned, focus immediatelly shifting back to Alix and later Alexei. In fact, there was so little of the girls I felt disappointed. While I agree with the main thought that Alexandra was very dominant, I disagree strongly with statement like "for Alexandra one daughter was as good as the other and she treated them like homogenou mass". The girls received the same upbringing and were led to the same ideal, but a statement like this is, I believe, very tricky. Alexandra was an immenselly loving mother, even though the girls were relegated into side position by their brother, and had she indeed treated them without respect for their dissimilar personalities, they probably wouldn´t have such distinctly different personality features. Ms. Rappaport says "she often did not call them by their names", but frankly I call my newphews "the boys" all the time. Does that mean I treat them as homogenous mass? I feel Alexandra´s "negligence of the girls was severely exaggarated, as was the closeness of OTMA to Rasputin.

I was delighted to see Prince Michael of Kent!

Another downside would be the dubbing of "Imperial family". All the accents were awful - and well, inaccurate. Nicholas and Alexandra spoke perfect English, and the girls actually had Irish accent before Sydney Gibbs repaired the damage.


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Re: Russia's Lost Princesses
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2014, 09:32:34 AM »
Thanks for the link! indeed very hard to understand what the girls are saying :(

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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2014, 11:56:21 PM »
I agree with the comments above. I liked it overall and am anxious to catch the second part. The girls' Russian accidents of their speaking was dreadful and ought to be edited if this ever makes its way to home video. Olga's letter to Rasputin seeking guidance on her little officer crush is done in a voice that makes it sound like she's about seven years old when the letter was written.

Speaking of Rasputin, his influence probably gets a tad overstated. They make it seem like he's a regular Dear Abby offering dating tips to the girls.

I wasn't wild about the depiction of Alexei either. Sure he could be a brat, but they seemed to overemphasize this in an attempt to paint his upbringing as one far more privileged (and undeserving of the reverence he received) than his sisters. They show Alexei pushing and slapping at people and "getting away with murder" but describe Anastasia as being nothing more than a cute practical joker. In reality both the youngest children of the Tsar could be L'enfants terrible on practically equal footing.

All in all though a pretty solid program with some excellent contributors and and fantastic video of the family!
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2014, 02:26:35 PM »
I understand the second part aired today. Has anyone seen it? What are your impressions?

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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2014, 04:18:40 PM »
I think the somewhat diverse opinions already expressed on this thread show that the whole matter is subjective.  Subjective to personal opinion!  The second episode followed as the first.  One contributor commented that the title was wrong.  The programme seems to have been inspired by Helen Rappaport's book but it is just a general biography of the inner circle of the family in the years leading up to their demise.  Indeed at times I felt a mention was made of the princesses only when someone noted aghast "Oh!!! We haven't mentioned them for ten minutes.... what can we say now?"  Most but not all of the quotes and photos I had seen before but there is no harm in that and the programmes will I am sure have given non-enthusiasts interest and perhaps desire to find out more!  All the contributors were well known authors so all of their contributions and opinions are well known to contributors to this site.  But of interest to the public.  My only criticism would be that they have not in many cases moved on.  Rasputin's influence is over-exaggerated as is his closeness to the girls.  And the blunt unequivocal statement that Rasputin was given poisoned cakes grated on this ear!   

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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2014, 05:52:32 PM »
Looks good to me.
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