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Offline CorisCapnSkip

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"The Real Anastasia" on Travel Channel
« on: August 30, 2014, 10:23:03 PM »
Here is a segment from the Travel Channel show Mysteries at the Museum.  http://www.travelchannel.com/video/the-real-anastasia  The show is generally wonderfully done and they do a good job on the reenactments, although they did a very silly story on John Wilkes Booth (another person who had a claimant/impostor in later years and his was probably a better match) and I told them so.  According to this program, the DNA from Anna Anderson was taken from a hair sample left at the Charlottesville Historical Society and a test simply showed she was "not a Romanov."  They didn't say against whose DNA they checked it or how and I don't recall that they even said who performed the tests or when.  I understood the definitive tests had been taken from tissue left after surgery Anna Anderson had undergone.

Now, I was very impressed when someone on this forum (it's the bottom reply here http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=13419.msg84775#msg84775) said that the tissue would have to be from the specific part of the body (intestine or whatever) to match what was taken--in other words, it would eliminate the fear of someone having faked the test by just taking any tissue from anyone...well, presumably from someone in the Polish family suspect as being hers.  I would be even more impressed if this hair and the tissue from the operation proved to be from the same person--as they were taken at different times and places, under different circumstances, etc.  Incidentally, the hair in the museum didn't look to me like hers--it appeared blond, and I understood her to have dark hair--but perhaps it somehow lost color over the years.

A bit unrelated, but a great example of how things should be done was in the case of Bonnie and Clyde.  Authorities immediately called in family members to positively identify them, then displayed their bodies to tens of thousands of visitors, unlike Booth or Anastasia, who were shot in secret and then buried for years.  The person asked to identify Booth was a doctor who had met him perhaps once.  On sight of the body, he declared it wasn't him, took a closer look and said it was after all, fueling years of survival speculation.  You don't see too many cases of people coming forward to claim they were the real Bonnie and Clyde!
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Re: "The Real Anastasia" on Travel Channel
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2014, 10:35:57 AM »
No one it seems on the conspiracy side also asks the practical questions...A) How does a teenager escape a mass execution? B) If she did escape how is it after several decades no one involved in the murder or cover up, or the rescuers themselves, said a word of it? These weren't heavily trained CIA/NSA/FBI agents, these were, in some cases, loudish dimwited brutes who enjoyed (Ermakov) telling others of their involvement in the murder.

Even "Deep Throat" eventually came forward, and that wasn't even a murder cover up.

I also think part of the reason why people are more inclined to believe in the survival myth of an Anastasia rather than a Booth or Bonnie & Clyde is because Anastasia is a sympathetic figure. Most Americans wanted Booth dead for his crime and Bonnie & Clyde were outlaws. Even those who romanticize the latter see a certain charm in their going down in a blaze of glory, rather rooting away in a prison cell or state execution.
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Re: "The Real Anastasia" on Travel Channel
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2014, 12:18:57 PM »
Erik

I agree with all your points. In particular, the 'escape' story is a mass of holes.

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Re: "The Real Anastasia" on Travel Channel
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2014, 05:54:53 PM »
The Soviets themselves helped the conspiracy nuts because they covered up the murders.  Had they come out right away and said:  "The Tsar and his family are all dead.  Here are the bodies."  then it would have been settled right there and then. 
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Re: "The Real Anastasia" on Travel Channel
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2014, 09:44:45 PM »
The Charlottesville Historical Society hair was donated by me to their organization - it is from my collection - I provided both the society and the producers with all the background on the testing done - i.e., that particular strand of hair was tested in 2010 by Michael Coble, who also did the DNA testing on the two last Romanov remains found in Koptyaki, and his colleage Daniele Poldini at George Washington University.  They tested against the Gill mtDNA profile for the 1994 hair, the 1994 bowel tissue, and the Karl Maucher mtDNA profiles.  All of this was done for - and described in - the book Resurrection of the Romanovs by myself and Penny Wilson.

So that's who did the testing on this hair and when.


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Re: "The Real Anastasia" on Travel Channel
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2014, 11:44:45 PM »
Thanks, Greg.  I am also impressed that from what I have heard, the two remaining bodies matched the earlier remains identified as Romanovs.  The last time I checked, though, the remains had not been placed in the vaults reserved for Anastasia and Alexei, which seems a shame.