The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1

[grandduchessella]

Not a good quality but for me anyway a new one of Elena Vladimirovna

I have this one from a poscard (it also had individual photos of Boris, Miechen and Vladimir). I'll try to upload a better copy for you Svetabel.

[Svetabel]

Not a good quality but for me anyway a new one of Elena Vladimirovna

I have this one from a poscard (it also had individual photos of Boris, Miechen and Vladimir). I'll try to upload a better copy for you Svetabel.

Oh, thanks so much! 

[grandduchessella]

Not a good quality but for me anyway a new one of Elena Vladimirovna

I have this one from a poscard (it also had individual photos of Boris, Miechen and Vladimir). I'll try to upload a better copy for you Svetabel.

Oh, thanks so much! 

I finally managed to ge it uploaded.



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[TampaBay]

IMO I see a strong resemblance in Helen to her cousin and sister-in-law Ducky in the above pictures.

TampaBay

[Luc]

Thank you again Grandduchessella ! Do you have also a photograph of Elena?

[gogm]

This is a famous picture of the ladies at the coronation:



Svetabel advised:  Sitting on the floor: Princess Olga of Wuerttemberg. Sitting (left to right): GDss Alexandra Iosifovna, Duchess Louise of Connaught. Standing (left to right): Princess Elsa of Wuerttemberg, Duchess Vera of Wuerttemberg, GDss Anastasia of Mecklenbourg-Schwerin, GDss Maria Pvalovna-elder, GDss Elena Vladimirovna, GDss Elizaveta Mavrikievna, Princess Elena of Saxe-Altenburg. Back row: pages.

[Svetabel]

Thank you again Grandduchessella ! Do you have also a photograph of Elena?

Not exactly the 1896 photo but the gown is similar and tiara is the same.

[Marc]

I also always find this strange about Helen and her marriage prospects...She was young,for me beautiful at that time and very,very wealthy...she schould be more ahead of the rest of European princesses,but she ended up in a love match with a Prince...

One more thing about Helen-she found herself in a love match,but reacted just like her mother when her daughter Olga wanted to marry Prince Paul of Yugoslavia,as she found that a descedant of the Demidov family is about to make aliance with an ''Imperial'' family which she didn't find plesing for her imperial dignity(just like her mother)...but after that his money ''made the way'' to her heart!

[Svetabel]

I also think Elena was a very desirable bride. But why was Miechen so arrogant and filled with 'imperial dignity' ? I've never understood that  She herself came only from Mecklenburg...

Actually GDss MP-elder considered herself and the Mecklenbourg  clan more Slavs than the Romanovs meaning her Pomeranian ancestors.

[Svetabel]

24 May 1900
Iheard from Minnie about Maria Pavlovna's efforts to marry off her daughter Elena. After the failure with Max [of Baden], they are desperate to find another husband.

Anyway their engagement photos were lovely.

[Teddy]

A book about this branch of the Romanov family, would be very pleasant.

[Svetabel]

A book about this branch of the Romanov family, would be very pleasant.

I'd say a LARGE book would be great as now there are only many articles and chapters (in the books on the Romanovs) about the Vladimirovitchi as well as a thin rare book on their palace in Saint-Petersbourg.

[Eric_Lowe]

If one could get the archievs in St.Petersburg to co-operate...

[Svetabel]

If one could get the archievs in St.Petersburg to co-operate...

Ha, one must devote YEARS of the life to work in the archives.

[Eric_Lowe]

Not really...Charlotte Zeepvat had gotton stuff from the Russian archievs, but she told me that it operates like the cold war and things smuggle out...Russians books now are also beautifully illustrated as never before. I am hopeful at least.