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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #360 on: November 27, 2009, 05:22:26 AM »
Grand Duke Vladimir was supposedly a very wealthy man. The wealthiest son of Alexander II. Although the Vladimir Palace is very grand, and the jewellery collection rivalled that of the Empress, I am surprised that they did not own any really grand country houses, or other palaces..
If one compares the Konstantinovichi who owned the big palace at Strelna, the Marble Palace in St Petersburg and Pavlovsk, besides other estates, this family look relatively poor. ( judging by the property they owned )

Does anyone know what other properties they owned ?

Did they own Ropsha ?     

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #361 on: November 27, 2009, 08:21:17 AM »
Grand Duke Vladimir was supposedly a very wealthy man. The wealthiest son of Alexander II. Although the Vladimir Palace is very grand, and the jewellery collection rivalled that of the Empress, I am surprised that they did not own any really grand country houses, or other palaces..
If one compares the Konstantinovichi who owned the big palace at Strelna, the Marble Palace in St Petersburg and Pavlovsk, besides other estates, this family look relatively poor. ( judging by the property they owned )

Does anyone know what other properties they owned ?

Did they own Ropsha ?     
They were no doubt richer because they did NOT own grand estates with all the mammoth expenses involved in maintaining them!

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #362 on: November 28, 2009, 01:50:42 PM »
Grand Duke Vladimir was supposedly a very wealthy man. The wealthiest son of Alexander II. Although the Vladimir Palace is very grand, and the jewellery collection rivalled that of the Empress, I am surprised that they did not own any really grand country houses, or other palaces..
If one compares the Konstantinovichi who owned the big palace at Strelna, the Marble Palace in St Petersburg and Pavlovsk, besides other estates, this family look relatively poor. ( judging by the property they owned )

Does anyone know what other properties they owned ?

Did they own Ropsha ?     

They owned a palace in Tsarskoe Selo. Also each of Vladimir's sons had his own Palace (not that grand style as the family nest on Dvortzvoya Quay) or a mansion.

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #363 on: November 28, 2009, 02:00:46 PM »
Does Ellen has a palace of her own in Russia ?

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #364 on: November 28, 2009, 04:15:43 PM »
I don't think so, the only palace I can think of that she owned was the Nicholas Palace with her husband.

When she came to Russia with her family, she most likely stayed with her mother.

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #365 on: November 29, 2009, 01:03:03 PM »
Indeed. If she wanted, Ellen could have bought herself a house in St. Petersburg or Moscow, but chose not to. It is at Miechen's palace that she clashed with Miss Fox...

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #366 on: December 07, 2009, 02:40:02 PM »
Grand Duke Alexander & GD Vladimir and cousins Nicholas Maximilianovich and Sergei Maximilianovich of Leuchtenberg


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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #367 on: December 07, 2009, 02:52:00 PM »
i love that photoshoot with Vladimir doing a "WAZAAAAAAAP" xDD





Here the another from that session




And other group pic

 


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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #368 on: December 07, 2009, 03:00:23 PM »
Yes, the "WAZAAAAAAAP" is something you would not expect from a Grand Duke lol  I think there are a few more shots from this session. Can't remember off hand but thanks for posting them Katenka

 

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #369 on: December 07, 2009, 03:36:53 PM »
I don't think the "What’s up" wasn't even invented yet, lol. A grand Duke made it up first and possibly didn’t even think of its later meaning! Lol

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #370 on: December 08, 2009, 05:22:26 AM »
Grand Duke Alexander & GD Vladimir and cousins Nicholas Maximilianovich and Sergei Maximilianovich of Leuchtenberg



A little correction. There's no Sergei M. in the picture, that's Prince Albert of Saxe-Altenburg.

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #371 on: December 08, 2009, 04:08:20 PM »
Thanks for the correction ! He must be related to Marvra...her brother ?

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #372 on: December 08, 2009, 04:57:42 PM »
Not her brother, but a cousin. Albert was the husband of  Duchess Helene of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, the daughter of Grand Duchess Catherine Mikhailovna of Russia

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #373 on: December 08, 2009, 06:02:36 PM »
Thanks ! He seemed to be very close to the sons of Alexander II.

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #374 on: December 08, 2009, 07:04:07 PM »
no prob. :)