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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #375 on: December 08, 2009, 09:36:02 PM »
Is it because of his relationship by his wife ?

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #376 on: December 09, 2009, 12:36:32 AM »
Is it because of his relationship by his wife ?

He married Elena of Mecklenburg-Strelitz only in 1891. The photos are from the 1860s. He was Alexandra Iosifovna's relative,pennilless and without any special talents, that's why he went to Russia to seek wealth.

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #377 on: December 09, 2009, 01:35:11 PM »
By how did he became close to the imperial brothers ? It seems that they knew him well.

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #378 on: December 10, 2009, 01:56:58 AM »
By how did he became close to the imperial brothers ? It seems that they knew him well.

I had said in my previous post that he came to Russian to seek wealth. He was a relative of GDss Alexandra Iosifovna, who of course protected him. He was amiable enough to get friendship of the Russian Grand Dukes and Princes.

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #379 on: February 06, 2010, 10:46:37 PM »
Thanks to Burger queen who posted the link to a documentry about the Vladimirovitchi branch on this thread http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=14581.0 , I was about to get a few screen shots of Grand Duke Vladimir. Good video by the way several rare photos shown.
 


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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #380 on: February 22, 2010, 01:25:45 AM »

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #381 on: February 22, 2010, 01:30:20 AM »
Grand Duke Vladimir

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #382 on: March 21, 2010, 01:01:55 PM »
Grand Duke Boris :



Andrei :



Cyrill :



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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #383 on: March 21, 2010, 01:14:41 PM »
the first one is repeated but the one of Andrei is sure new for me. Thanks for posting it!

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #384 on: May 23, 2010, 01:44:03 PM »
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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #385 on: May 24, 2010, 08:39:52 AM »
Are those hunting or walking clothes ?

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #386 on: June 02, 2010, 03:15:01 AM »
Something that's always amazed me is some peoples criticism that the Vladimirovitchi were power hungry - as evidenced by Grand Duke Cyrill's behavior during the revolution. Wouldn't it be sufficient to say that the entire Romanov dynasty since it's establishment had an enormous lust for power. Look at all the legitimate rulers that were disposed by a family rival, or in the case of Catherine the Great their own wife. To me this is shortfall of the autocratic system, rather than a fault that the Vladimirovitchi alone possessed.

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #387 on: June 02, 2010, 07:28:33 AM »
Something that's always amazed me is some peoples criticism that the Vladimirovitchi were power hungry - as evidenced by Grand Duke Cyrill's behavior during the revolution. Wouldn't it be sufficient to say that the entire Romanov dynasty since it's establishment had an enormous lust for power. Look at all the legitimate rulers that were disposed by a family rival, or in the case of Catherine the Great their own wife. To me this is shortfall of the autocratic system, rather than a fault that the Vladimirovitchi alone possessed.

After Catherine's day, though, the family were raised to be tenaciously loyal to the Tsar in order to end the sort of palace revolution taht went on in her century - hence the oath each Grand Duke took at 16, etc. They were supposed to deploy their talents in the servcie of the Emperor, not against him - and in fact, faced with supreme power, many Grand Dukes balked at it (look at Konstantin Pavlvich, for instance).  Others did whatever was required of them to the best of whatever ability they had an amused themslves the rest of the time. The most talented and dutiful of the Grand Dukes used their brains wholly in service of the throne - and the outstanding exaple of course is Konstantin Nikolaevich, my favouite.
 :-) In his lifetime there were all manner of silly stories about his supposed lust of power, but not one of them was true.
It's a moot point as to whether Kiril's actions in 1917 were due to a lust for power or an attempt to save the throne, but his conduct to that point had hardly been that of a talented servant of the throne (even his mother was disapponted in all three of her sons), and this is the crux of peopels' criticusms of him, I think - he failed to act until he was in a position where personal power might seem to be the motive.
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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #388 on: June 02, 2010, 10:21:10 AM »
I think their openly stressed opinion on how close they were to the succession did not help matters. Both Minny & Alicky were united in their dislike of Miechen.

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Re: The Vladimirovitchi - discussion and pictures Part 1
« Reply #389 on: June 09, 2010, 02:22:54 PM »
Vladimir and Prince Waldemar of Denmark.


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