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Tsarist Submarine Makes Waves in Sweden
« on: July 28, 2015, 09:14:21 AM »
Swedish divers wreck hunting thought they had discovered a shipwrecked Russian spying submarine in the Stockholm Archipelago, "with a name in Cyrillic letters", possibly with its crew still alive and trapped inside. But research revealed it was the submarine Сомъ (= Catfish) of the Imperial Russian Navy (though originally US-built), which had sunk 99 years ago after a collision with a Swedish steamer.

The dead giveaway that it was pre-revolutionary: The name on the side was spelled Сомъ (with the hard sign, ъ, which was mandatory at the end of every word ending in a hard consonant untill the Bolshevikhs abolished the rule. And funnily enough, without the ъ it wouldn't necessarily have been obvious to the divers that Сом(ъ) was a Russian name in Cyrillic letters.) See http://img.gazeta.ru/files3/945/7659945/upload-912_70__6_-pic510v-510x340-71367.jpg

Russian media can once again laugh at the Swedes, who get caught up in a panic and shout "Russian submarine - Putin's coming for us!" every time they see something unfamiliar on or in the Baltic. Last time it turned out it was a "party submarine" rented out by an event firm..... And this time it turned out to be Nicholas II - coming to get the Germans!

http://www.thelocal.se/20150728/sweden-probes-russian-submarine-wreckage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Som-class_submarine


« Last Edit: July 28, 2015, 09:35:30 AM by Превед »
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Re: Tsarist Submarine Makes Waves in Sweden
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 09:49:03 AM »
And in a funny little historic twist of the fish tail, the steamer that sunk the imperial Som / Catfish was called S/S Ångermanland, named after the North Swedish province that is famous for its fermented herring, sports three salmons in its arms and recently for the first time was elevated to a dukedom - for Princess Madeleine's baby son, bearing the imperial name Nicolas!
« Last Edit: July 28, 2015, 09:51:15 AM by Превед »
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Tsarist Submarine Makes Waves in Sweden
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2015, 12:57:11 PM »
 I wonder if any attempt will be made to salvage the wreck.
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Re: Tsarist Submarine Makes Waves in Sweden
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2015, 04:43:14 PM »
I wonder if any attempt will be made to salvage the wreck.

I don't think so. I heard on the evening news it will most likely be treated as a military / marine cemetary.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2015, 04:48:40 PM by Превед »
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)

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Re: Tsarist Submarine Makes Waves in Sweden
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2015, 04:53:37 PM »
I don't think as well.  Naval vessels like the Som that are sunk are usually considered war graves and are not salvaged ect except to clear sea lanes ect.. Also note this sub is still property of the Russian government  so people can't do anything to it without their permission.

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Re: Tsarist Submarine Makes Waves in Sweden
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2015, 05:25:28 PM »
So, I guess they'll leave it then.  Yeah, I can understand that.
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Re: Tsarist Submarine Makes Waves in Sweden
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2018, 01:43:12 PM »
And in a funny little historic twist of the fish tail, the steamer that sunk the imperial Som / Catfish was called S/S Ångermanland, named after the North Swedish province that is famous for its fermented herring, sports three salmons in its arms and recently for the first time was elevated to a dukedom - for Princess Madeleine's baby son, bearing the imperial name Nicolas!

According to Wikipedia this was the boat on which Grand Duchess Yelizaveta Mavrikievna, two of her children and two of her grandchildren travelled from Finland (or Estonia?) to Sweden in 1918, after being let out of Russia by the Bolsheviks.
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
Их грустный, опущённый вид,
Как речь безмолвная могилы,
Горячку сердца холодит.

(Афанасий Фет: «Ивы и берёзы», 1843 / 1856)