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Re: Did the Tzar Cry?
« Reply #90 on: November 23, 2007, 12:50:20 PM »
On the contrary, he would have been very dissapointed it wasn't a boy. He would have been happy for the birth of another child, but it would have been bitter-sweet. That's not to say at all though that he loved Anastasia at birth any less than OTM.

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« Reply #91 on: November 23, 2007, 10:34:05 PM »
So, his crying is probably a myth?

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« Reply #92 on: November 24, 2007, 07:16:58 AM »
From what I have read in his diary he wrote  (As someone else posted earlier)
"At about 3 o'clock in the morning, Alix started to have strong pains.  At 4 o'clock I got up, went to my room and dressed.  At exactly 6 o'clock in the morning a little daughter - Anastasia - was born.  Everything went off splendidly, quite quickly and thank God without any complications! Thanks to the fact that all began and ended while everyone was asleep, we both had a feeling of calm and solitude! After that I sat down to write telegrams to relatives and friends in various parts of the world.  At 11 o'clock Yanyshev said prayers.  At 3 o'clock there was a Te Deum at our church.  Mama arrived from Gatchina.  Went for a short walk. After tea, Mama left.  Luckily Alix was quite cheerful.  The little one weighs 11 and half pounds and measures 55 centimetres. Went to bed early."

From this he seemed happy that both mother and baby were healthy and all went well.   I don't see why he would of been disappointed.  It's their baby and I guess he was happy that the baby was healthy.  Apparently he named her Anastasia after the Saint.   

The ones who show their disappointment is Xenia and KR.  From Xenia's diary

"Alix feels splendid - but my God!  What a disappointment!...a fourth girl! They named her Anastasia.  Mama sent me a Telegram about it, and writes 'Alix has again given birth to a daughter!'"


KR's diary he wrote:

"The new born Grand Duchess Anastasia entered the world at 6 in the morning, the birth was normal and lasted three hours, the baby is quite big.  Forgive us Lord, if we all felt disappointed instead of joy; we were so hoping for a boy, and it's a fourth daughter."

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Re: Did the Tzar Cry?
« Reply #93 on: November 24, 2007, 02:27:00 PM »
I agree he was happy with the health of Anastasia and Alexandra, that everything had gone off fine and that they had another precious child in their family. If he was dissapointed, I don't think he ever would have shown it to Alix.

But I think he did feel slightly dissapointed. I don't know how to say what I mean, like he was happy with his new daughter but dissapointed cause he still needed an heir. I do think his crying is probably a myth.


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« Reply #94 on: November 24, 2007, 10:26:18 PM »
Looking at each of the diary entries of Tatiana, Maria and Anastasia's births Nicky seems happy.   That each birth was quick and each girl was healthy. :) He seemed like a proud father.

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Re: Did the Tzar Cry?
« Reply #95 on: November 24, 2007, 11:52:14 PM »
There might've been a little dissapointment but I'm pretty sure he didn't actually cry about it.
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« Reply #96 on: November 25, 2007, 07:21:43 PM »
if you think about it..
he was Tsar! he was supposed to produce a boy! it was in his family.. plus it was the rules!
what if he didn't have a boy?
i'm sure that, that image ran through is mind a few times!!

Being pressured and being told that it was a boy... he must have had his hopes up!
and when it was finally a girl, i'm sure that he had that doubt once more, but none the less
he was a father to a child once again! and that i'm sure changed his mind!!

but i'm totally spit balling here... so there is my view :D haha!

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« Reply #97 on: November 30, 2007, 01:33:39 PM »
And he also kept getting rather unhelpful letters from relatives who 'regretted the birth of another girl for the country,' such as George and Queen Victoria. It's not that he was unhappy at the birth of another girl, just that it was so expected he would have boys. And everytime it was another girl, everyone sort of went 'sigh...'

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« Reply #98 on: November 30, 2007, 04:16:39 PM »
to true!
he still was happy
but he probably felt awful that he couldn't do really anything.. but try again.
and when it does happen, he turns out to have a horrible disease...

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« Reply #99 on: January 13, 2008, 07:05:21 AM »
Random question- Was Nicholas in the room while Alix was giving birth? I wouldn't think so. What did he do, just sit and wait outside?

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Re: Did the Tzar Cry?
« Reply #100 on: January 13, 2008, 08:29:47 AM »
I'm not certain about Anastasia's birth, but here's what Nicholas's diary says about Olga's: "At about 2 o'clock dear Mama arrived from Gatchina; she, Ella, and I were with Alix the whole time. At exactly 9 o'clock a baby's cry was heard and we all breathed a sigh of relief!"
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« Reply #101 on: January 13, 2008, 06:04:14 PM »
so i guess he was with her in the room..
but was that customary back then?

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« Reply #102 on: October 28, 2008, 06:19:13 PM »
I recall seeing an original copy of her birth announcement (on E-bay, no less) which I asked my mother to translate.  She said it was a "typical" press release on the birth and what a "joyous" (to use her word) occasion it was.  I saved the image but can't find it now.  We all know now that the family wasn't exactly "joyous"... 

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« Reply #103 on: October 28, 2008, 06:44:53 PM »
As Sarushka mentioned, I have too heard that Nicholas II had long walk (probably with few cigaretes) before he visited wife and newborn daughter. Of course, it was why after 3 girls, again was girl. But country expected Heir.
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Re: Nicholas and Alix's reaction to her birth
« Reply #104 on: October 29, 2008, 02:25:46 AM »
"Her fourth daughter, the Grand Duchess Anastasia Nicholaevna, was born at Peterhof on June 18th, 1901. However well the Emperor might hide his feelings, the Empress knew how intensely he longed for a son. He never showed any visible regret when the sex of his successive babies was announced. When the Grand Duchess Marie was born, it was noticed that he set off on a long solitary walk, but that he came back as outwardly unruffled as ever. In the upper classes of the country, however, there was much disappointment at the births of so many daughters. " - Sophie Buxhoeveden.

So it seems to me that the walk was after Maria was born. When you think about it, Anastasia was born very early in the morning, and Nicolas was with her and Alix, as he himself wrote: ". Everything went off splendidly, quite quickly and thank God without complications! Thanks to the fact that it all began and ended while everyone was still asleep, we both had a feeling of calm and solitude! "

It also always puzzled me, that Nicolas, who always wrote how much the newborn baby wieghted and measured, never wrote such a thing about Maria!
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