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Arfly:
Does anyone know whether the girl in the first picture is Olga or Tatiana?
I noticed that this picture was already discussed on this forum. However, the discussion was over whether or not the girl in the first picture was Tatiana or Maria.
For my part, I have always thought it was Olga, so I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts/evidence and/or other pictures that would help to determine which girl this is?

I have accompanied the photo in question with a second of Tatiana from around the same time. These are the only pictures I have been able to find of the girls in these outfits at this certain age. One might be tempted to say that because the girl in the second picture is Tatiana that, therefore, the girl in the first one must be Tatiana as well. However, if Tatiana is wearing that outfit, than Olga must be wearing the same outfit as well, so the first girl could still be Olga.

Notice how Tatiana's outfit (in the 2nd picture) is rather loose fitting and cuts below her knees. The first girl's outfit, however, looks short and ill-fitting. My theory is that Olga was possibly in the middle of her growth spurt at this time and her clothes were not fitting right. On the other hand, one might argue that the 1st dress just looks too short, but it really isn't and has simply gotten mussed up in the time between the 2nd pic and the 1st.

Another point I would like to make is that Tatiana's hair in the 2nd pic is sticking out and messy, while the girl's hair in the first picture is smooth. Of course, it could be argued that the first picture preceded the second and that Tatiana's hair got messed up in between; or that the pictures were taken on two different days.

It just seems so uncharacteristic of Tatiana to smile that brightly. It is more of something Olga would do.

Thoughts anyone?

Arfly:
Sorry the pics didn't upload right the first time.




That's better...

Ally Kumari:
I never doubted that the girl in question was Tatiana. She is laughing unabashedly in the photo, something that is rare, but that is her face alright. Furthermore the man behind her is Nicholas Sablin, who was assigned to look after her on the Standart cruises (and funny enough the man holding her hand is also Nicholas Sablin, the namesake of the first), The differenc tnagles of both photos make it difficult to judge how fitting the dress is, but to my eyes it looks the same. The second girl IS Tatiana beyond any doubt, too.

Arfly:
Who was assigned to look after Olga on the Standart cruises?

Ally Kumari:
According to Helen Rappaport´s Romanov Sisters it was this other Nikolai Sablin.

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