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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2005, 08:24:14 PM »
The future Kaiser Wilhelm probably said what Vicky wanted to say--when travelling with Louise Netherlands in a carriage in 1863, he called her an 'ugly monkey'.
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2005, 02:57:27 PM »
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2005, 03:00:54 PM »
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The future Kaiser Wilhelm probably said what Vicky wanted to say--when travelling with Louise Netherlands in a carriage in 1863, he called her an 'ugly monkey'.

Oh, very nice! ;) None of Louise´s daughters became such a beauty as their mother or a beauty at all... :-/

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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2005, 03:25:47 PM »
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Oh, very nice! ;) None of Louise´s daughters became such a beauty as their mother or a beauty at all... :-/


Thats is true.  Vigee Lebrun painted Queen Louise in the early 1800s and was charmed by her.  She said "but here my pen must remain powerless for it cannot convey the impression that my first meeting with the Princess made upon me. her charming and heavenly face shone with an expression of gentle virtue and she possessed the finest and most regular features. The beauty of her figure, her neck, her arms, the dazzling freshness of her complexion, everything about her surpassed the most perfect ideal. She was in deep mourning and wore a crown made with spikes of jet which, far from unbecoming, gave her palid cheeks a certain radiance."

However, when Vigee Lebrun met her children, she was less impressed, pershaps surprised that none of Louise' children inherited their mother's beauty and charm.  She described them of having "faces with personality."  Euphemistic way of saying they are not pretty.
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2005, 03:40:59 PM »
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Looks quite slim and smug, doesn't he?
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2005, 01:50:00 PM »
These siblings are uniformly good looking in my opinion! Had no idea this family had the 'good looking genes' so remiss from other royal families. My opinion at least!  ;)

What is the status of that wonderful tiara Princess Luise is wearing? It is one of the grandest shown in the forum.

Also, why did Frederich have no heirs? What is the conventional wisdom on how his heir, had there been one, would have led Prussia versus the reign of WI?

Lastly, did WI's brothers tend to agree with the Wilhelmine/Bismarckian polictics of the day? Thanks!
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2005, 02:33:41 PM »
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Lastly, did WI's brothers tend to agree with the Wilhelmine/Bismarckian polictics of the day? Thanks!


Based on what Vicky wrote, Alexandrine and Louise did at least and egged Wilhelm I on in rejecting the more liberal views that Prince Albert had thought Wilhelm shared.
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2005, 02:40:10 PM »
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What is the status of that wonderful tiara Princess Luise is wearing? It is one of the grandest shown in the forum.


If it's the one I think it is, here's what Danjel's site has to say (I can't be sure since he isn't able to display photos any longer to compare  :( )

"A tiara made of the remains of the inauguration-tiara of Queen Anna Paulovna of the Netherlands which was made by the jeweller Duval. The huge pearls are taken from collection of the Dutch Royal House.

Queen Juliana was not espacially fond of this tiara, she wore it only once; during the visit of President Tito of Yugoslavia.

Queen Beatrix wore this tiara a lot when she was a princess, as well did her sister princess Margriet, who posed with this tiara and the diamond and pearl swag corsage once worn by Queen Wilhelmina. At this picture she's even wearing a dress of Queen Wilhelmina!

Becoming a Queen her majesty Queen Beatrix didn't wear it anymore.

The tiara remained in the royal vaults until 2001 when the fiancee of Crownprince Willem-Alexander, Máxima Zorrguita, wore this diadem, without the pearls, to the wedding of Crownprince Haakon of Norway. Apparantely she liked this style, because in 2003 she wore this tiara in the same setting again at the State Visit to Chili."
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2005, 04:38:24 PM »
It appears as though this tiara is the same found with Alexandrine.  Is it possible that this is the same one Augusta wore, which Queen Mary of England copied, and Princess Youssoupova also had a copy of?

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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2005, 05:36:45 PM »
I don't know--it doesn't seem to have the Lover's Knot that are the hallmark of the other mentioned tiaras. It actually reminds me somewhat of Grand Duchess Vladimir's tiara with the swinging pearls. Miechen was a Mecklenberg-Schwerin--perhaps she gained inspiration?
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2005, 10:47:14 AM »
Wilhelm I's brother Karl  was a fairly odious man. He was married to Maria of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach, who was Wilhelm's wife's elder sister. The story between both couples is similar to that between Alexander III of Russia & Minnie and his brother Vladimir & Aunt Miechen, since the latter could not stand being so close to the throne and having no political influence at court. Nevertheless, Marie managed to lead Berlin society, since her sister was a rather odd woman with a very bipolar personality, sometimes shouting at her own son Fritz, according to a note he gave his future wife Vicky in England when they were betrothed.

Karl and Marie's son (The Red Prince-nicknamed like that because of the colour of his favourite unuiform, not his political views) was no better than they. Friedrich Karl (Fritz Carl) was an odious man, very Prussian (i.e. conservative); he often praised the fact of how good a general each of his sons would make; he could not stand the fact that his wife kept on giving birth to daughter after daughter, and when she (Marianne on Anhalt-Dessau) gave birth to their third daughter (and no son having been yet produced) he boxed her ears so much that she was permanently deaf. The child did not live for long, but Marianne did manage to give birth in 1865 to a son. Vicky was immediately drawn to this sad woman, whom she thought not very bright but good at heart, unlike most of the Hohenzollerns that surrounded her.

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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2006, 07:06:50 AM »
Is it just me or anyone else thinks she looks like a pretty female "Superhero" ? !


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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2006, 10:35:04 AM »
Indeed, she was beautiful and had an amazing personality for her times."The Queen of Prussia is really very charming" remarked Napoleon Bonaparte to tsar Alexander I. "One would like to lay a crown at her feet instead of taking it away from her!"
But Queen Sophie of Netherland didn't have a very good oppinion of her. She wrote to her friend , Lady Mallet:"Queen Louise of Prussia was one of the greatest flirts that ever lived on a throne....she went to the utmost verge of flirtation -perhaps further....she was handsome, shrewd, très dissimulée, she advised the unlucky war of 1806....She was passionately fond of dress, dancing every sort of amusement and dissipation.When in later years, historians raised her on a pedestral, her own husband used the phrase - this was not her character! My father(Queen Sophie's father), had known her well(Queen Louise).She had tried to flirt with him, but her bad breath disgusted him!...."

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Re: Friedrich Wilhelm III, Queen Louise & family
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2007, 07:47:12 PM »
This thread hasn't been active for long a long time, so I guess the link dosn't work anymore...
 Anyways I'm interested in Prince Karl and his family. He doesn't seem to have been a very pleasant person. He was very rude to Vicky and I think was quite vulgar aswell, despite he and his wife being leading in Berlin society. Does anyone have some pictures of him and his wife and children.

His daughter Anna, 1836-1918.