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Re: Rasputin and Anastasia
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2005, 09:40:28 AM »
The question of "molestation" of the Grand Duchesses is disucssed on the Rasputin thread. Please go there to read it. Bottom line though, is "NEVER HAPPENED".

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Re: Rasputin and Anastasia
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2005, 11:29:55 AM »
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Could someone PLEASE post the letter that Anastasia wrote to Rasputin?   ;D  I really want to read it!
"Господь им дал дар по молитвам их размягчать окаменелые наши сердца за их страдания..Мне думается, что если люди будут молиться Царской Cемье, оттают сердца с Божией помощью."

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Re: Rasputin and Anastasia
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2005, 08:32:40 PM »
I think the whole children were close to Rasputin, weither friend or the like.  Rasputin once sent a letter to Maria, and calling Maria my little Pearl M.   And it went on how he missed their chats by the sea side of something to that.  It was in N & A a life long passion.

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Re: Rasputin and Anastasia
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2005, 09:14:11 PM »
I think that Anastasia must have liked Rasputin as most of her sisters did. I do not know about Olga...But I never read in any of the Romanov books I have that Olga was not present in the "Mad Monk" funeral. I always read that all four girls were there... ???

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Re: Rasputin and Anastasia
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2005, 01:17:54 PM »
Of course, the four girls were. We know that from their own diaries, from the diary of their father. Read again those pages. RealAnastasia, why do you think that Anastasia liked Raspoutine more than the other? I just can not see any reason.

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Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2007, 10:59:58 PM »
 I have heard from certain sources, that Grand Duchess Anastasia was the only one of the Romanovs, who did not firmly belive that Grigori Rasputin was looking out for the best interests of her father and her country. Anastasia's mother Empress Alexandra told her children he is "our friend" I mean the girls all wore icons of Rasputin. However, Though Alexandra was convinced he was a saint, Anastasia knew that various other members of her family who lived abroad saw him as dangerous to Russia, being that close to the throne. Anastasia once wrote in a letter to her father Nicholas II in 1914 "Today I caught father Grigori watching me through my bedroom door that was partially opened, before I was decent, I don't wish to tell mother as it will surley upset her". I believe Anastasia had to an extent the right idea for what she belived, regarding Rasputin's life when he was not with the royal family. She did love him as him as her mother told her to, but I believe she could still see the devil within the saint. Do you think this is true?

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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2007, 12:22:28 AM »
The only place I recall reading anything like that was in the Royal Diaries book on Anastasia, which is fiction. If the letter you're quoting came from that book, it's not a real letter by Anastasia. The author, Carolyn Meyer, made it up for her book.

To my knowledge, all of OTMAA trusted Rasputin and had VERY little (if any) knowledge about the unsavory rumors that were circulating about him.
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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2007, 09:55:06 AM »
The royal diary books are so misleading and false. AN burned her real diaries, they are fiction. One of them even describes her getting Jemmy as a puppy for her 16th birthday. It's not true, Anna V. gave the dog to her fully grown for her and Tatiana to care for when she was imprisoned by Kerensky after the revolution.

I really don't think AN thought much about politics. As a kid growing up, if you mom tells you he healed your little brother and saved him from dying, you're probably going to believe it.

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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2007, 11:39:54 AM »
Actually, Anastasia firmly believed in Rasputin, just like the rest of her sisters. She wrote loving letters to him all the time and called him, "my precious, only friend". He was always very kind to her and she enjoyed visiting him.
"Господь им дал дар по молитвам их размягчать окаменелые наши сердца за их страдания..Мне думается, что если люди будут молиться Царской Cемье, оттают сердца с Божией помощью."

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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2007, 12:06:23 PM »
I thought Olga didn't have 100% faith in Rasputin. Especially since out of all her siblings, she knew most about what was going on politically.  ???

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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2007, 08:22:33 PM »
I thought Olga didn't have 100% faith in Rasputin. Especially since out of all her siblings, she knew most about what was going on politically.  ???

I don't know that Olga doubted Rasputin in the religious sense, but there is some evidence to suggest that she was aware to some degree of the scandals surrounding him. One of her letters or diary entries around the time of his death says something to the effect that she could understand why some people thought his death was necessary, but she throught it was a barbaric act nonetheless.
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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2007, 10:58:45 PM »
All four girls respected Rasputin as the healer of they brother. I never read a thing that would suggest any of them despised the "Starets" or even doubted about his powers and his closeness to God. Only fictional books said that one or more of the girls were suspicious of him.

However, I agree about Olga Nicholaievna's being aware of Rasputin real life. But even if she said that she could understand why some people wanted his death, she was not specially happy with the very idea of his murder. Olga was a very religious woman, and would never aproove a murder.

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P.S: Hey, Annie...I was wondering about the pic of your banner. I already knew it, but WHITHOUT Olga Nicholaievna popping out behind her aunt. May you post the whole pic, please? I've never seen this photo COMPLETE. Thanks in advance! ;)

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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2007, 07:31:43 AM »
P.S: Hey, Annie...I was wondering about the pic of your banner. I already knew it, but WHITHOUT Olga Nicholaievna popping out behind her aunt. May you post the whole pic, please? I've never seen this photo COMPLETE. Thanks in advance! ;)


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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2007, 07:29:48 PM »
Thank you, Sarushka. You are a deary, as ever.

I was wondering exactly why there are some copies of this photo with Olga Nicholaievna totally cut off the scene. It doesn't make sense to me...I've see this pic thousand of times with MarĂ­a and Anastasia in it, not their elder sister.

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Re: Did Grand Duchess Anastasia truly trust Grigori Rasputin?
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2007, 01:50:04 PM »
I have a larger version of the whole picture, the one I made the sig from, but sadly it's saved on my old computer that went down from a virus last year. There are literally thousands of great pics on it, not just Romanov, I wish I could have back. Maybe someday I can find someone who can save it.