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Biron descendants
Превед:
--- Quote from: Marc on October 06, 2018, 03:22:21 AM ---He also says that his family belongs to the 6th book of nobility in Russia
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I now realize what this alludes to:
According to this Russian Wikipedia page on the noble genealogical books I wrote about in the post above, they had six sections:
1. Families ennobled by imperial decree.
2. Families ennobled by military service. (Table of ranks.)
3. Families ennobled by civil service. (Table of ranks.)
4. Naturalized foreign noble families.
5. Titled noble families.
6. Ancient noble families whose origins predate the Petrine reforms.
The von Bührens / von Birons would fit into sections 4 and 5 too, as far as I can see, but of course it was most prestigeous to be placed in section 6.
Превед:
--- Quote from: Forum Admin on October 06, 2018, 03:10:44 PM ---I've never heard of nor seen "Nobility Books".
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Apparantly there is a lot of them around, as the volumes for each governorate were published and printed: See examples here.
Marc:
--- Quote from: Превед on October 07, 2018, 03:36:57 PM ---Isn't it a strange coïncidence that the Russian Wikipedia lists a certain Hegumen Alexey, Chief of the Russian Ecclesiastical Mission of the ROCOR in Jerusalem (1997–2000) (see link) as born in Belgrad in 1957 as "Андрей ван Бирон" (Andrey van Buren?), to a Russian father and a Hungarian mother? The arms listed for him on the page is certainly a variety of the von Bühren arms which feature in the Biron of Courland arms, but remember that "van Buren" is a rather common Dutch surname, in addition to the name of an extinct Dutch noble family, which produced Willem the Silent's wife Countess Anna van Buren. A bourgeois Van Buren was US President Martin Van Buren.
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Thank you for finding this.
It is very possible that there is some link between them and that these are same Birons as the others in Belgrade. They said that the have come from Ukraine to the Yugoslavia, after the revolution. They also say that they are connected with the Kurland branch through the brother of the first Duke and that they represent some collateral branch of the same family. They said that certificate was listed in one of the Russian nobility books.
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