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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #240 on: May 07, 2010, 11:01:34 AM »
Maybe not ugly but "plain looking"?. Anyways that s secondary, what makes her being "ugly" is her character, more than her face, body or whatever.

And another thing Elegance and beauty are NOT the same thing. You can be normal, not a beauty and being elegant ;-) and Elisaveta was elegant, but not a beauty  (attractive? perhaps to some people, not to me)

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #241 on: May 07, 2010, 11:48:37 AM »
I don't think Elisabetta was ugly, actually if one count features, she was considered a beauty (a dark one).

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #242 on: May 07, 2010, 12:11:30 PM »
Maybe not ugly but "plain looking"?. Anyways that s secondary, what makes her being "ugly" is her character, more than her face, body or whatever.

And another thing Elegance and beauty are NOT the same thing. You can be normal, not a beauty and being elegant ;-) and Elisaveta was elegant, but not a beauty  (attractive? perhaps to some people, not to me)


I agree--the Duchess of Windsor comes to mind. I don't think anyone has ever called her a beauty but she certainly had elegance and something that drew men to her.

As for Elisabeth, she never struck me as elegant. I don't know her height but she always struck me as rather ungainly in how she carried herself. Even 'dolled up' she didn't seem elegant. I do think she was a lovely child but those looks didn't carry.
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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #243 on: May 07, 2010, 01:16:20 PM »
Maybe not ugly but "plain looking"?. Anyways that s secondary, what makes her being "ugly" is her character, more than her face, body or whatever.

And another thing Elegance and beauty are NOT the same thing. You can be normal, not a beauty and being elegant ;-) and Elisaveta was elegant, but not a beauty  (attractive? perhaps to some people, not to me)

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I think the 'the Lazlo' of Elisabeta is quite elegant.

I agree with you that her character was far from the warmth that for example her mother possessed. But that does not necessary mean 'it' will expresses itself through in the person's appearance. Their are also 'evil' people who are very beautiful. Think of the 'femme fatale' for example.

I know that elegance and beauty are two very diffrent features, but I never used elegance as a statement or argument to prove that Elisabeta was beautiful. I just think she was quite elegant in some of her portraits and snap-shots. But maybe I have a diffrent way of looking at elegance. I think (miracles apparently have not left the world) I have to agree a little bit with Eric on this one and disagree with gdella.

Aldo I will agree the Duchess of Windsor example, I think Elisabeta did not appear 'ungainly' all the time (more during the first two decades of the twentieth century, when the fashion did not suit her at all most of that time). Like I said before, the portraits that KarlandZita posted of her, prove quite the opposite I think. No, not a real natural beauty, but when I think of plan and ungainly it's not Elisabeta that comes up in my mind as first.

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #244 on: May 07, 2010, 01:27:43 PM »
Hmmm..Elisaveta, at least for me was faaaar away from being a "femme fatale".

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #245 on: May 07, 2010, 01:32:04 PM »
Hahaha...I couldn't agree more! Not even de Laszlo could make that happen!

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #246 on: May 07, 2010, 03:16:40 PM »

I think (miracles apparently have not left the world) I have to agree a little bit with Eric on this one and disagree with gdella.


What?!?!  :o :) ;)  

I do think that deLazslo could make just about anyone look good though. Maybe it was just the fashion of the times (and no, they didn't suit her much) but she never struck me as 'at ease' with herself or naturally graceful in the way she carried herself. That's what I meant by ungainly--feel free to continue to disagree though.  ;)  There are some photos where she looks just fine but mostly she strikes me as very severe and 'handsome' but not really in a positive way. And in others, such as the one on page 1 or 2 of this thread where she's sitting on the couch with George, she just looks downright frumpy.
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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #247 on: June 06, 2010, 11:40:07 AM »
handsome Giorgos


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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #248 on: June 06, 2010, 02:20:18 PM »
Yes he was. I read he had a girlfriend in his life, but he did not remarry after his divorce from Elisabetta.

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #249 on: June 07, 2010, 09:18:36 AM »
She was his significant other, a devoted one by accounts. I believe her name was Britton-Jones? I just read an article about them in an old Royalty Digest so you'd think my memory was better. An old scrapbook I bought had a magazine photo of the 2 of them walking in London.
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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #250 on: June 07, 2010, 11:57:40 AM »
Yes. I think his mother would have been pleased if he had married her, especially if she was British. Queen Sophie never really approved of Elisabetta.

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #251 on: June 07, 2010, 03:42:10 PM »
Even though she was a divorcee and a commoner?

Here's what Time magazine wrote of her (without naming her) at the time of the recall:

Not since the Wallis Warfield affair had elite London drawing rooms echoed to such a coo of deliciously subdued conversation. "My dear—not the King of the Greeks!" "And just after he had won the plebiscite!" "How awful for the Foreign Office!" "And for the poor dear Hellenes!" "Hasn't he grown children, or something?"

Facts seemed to bear out the rumors: King George II of Greece has an English mistress and he insists on taking her home to Athens with him. He has insisted that he will not go without her, and some of his friends think that he would rather give up his throne than leave her permanently.

The matter has been discussed unofficially with individuals at the Foreign Office. They have been asked, purely in a personal way, if she could not be given some British official status in order to arrange for a passport and passage. The answer has been: no, it just won't do. So King George is thinking of making her lady-in-waiting to his sister, Princess Catherine, who is now in London and expects to return with her brother or follow soon after he goes to Athens. Friends close to the royal suite think that this will be done.

The King's mistress, a middle-aging brunette and a beauty in a quiet way, is described by people who know her as modest, attractive and pleasant. She dresses in quiet good taste, lives "somewhere in the country," where King George visits her. She has a teen-age daughter. Mother and daughter are now studying elementary Greek.

She is also reported to have been in Athens and Cairo at various times with King George, notably when he was more or less "confined" in Egypt early in World War II. Later, she is rumored to have done some kind of war factory work in Britain.

In London, King George has lived at Claridge's Hotel, all but immured in his suite, where he sees nobody except his very small staff, a very few friends, and, currently, his sister Catherine. His mistress has never been known to visit him there. He goes off quietly to see her. On the Sunday of the recent plebiscite , he dropped out of sight completely. The explanation was that he was "in the country with friends." The general supposition that he was in the country with his friend is borne out by the vigor with which his staff rejected all inquiries concerning his whereabouts at the time.

The lady is retiring by nature, but she is not ostracized. She does not move in anything that could be called "court circles," but several of her friends, with & without titles, do. Though she has not appeared in recent years in London's high society, she is accepted in it.


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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #252 on: June 07, 2010, 11:38:13 PM »
Hi,

If I remember correctly, this woman's name was Joyce Britten-Jones and she was 'received' in high society.
She had a calming effect on George II and was close to all the Greek royals, especially Frederica.

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #253 on: June 08, 2010, 01:09:47 PM »
Thanks for the information. I can see why Edward VIII went to holiday with Wallis to Greece. George II must be very sympathetic to his fellow king's situation.

I wonder why no photo or story on Joyce Britten-Jones ? She seemed to be very discreet and most probably truly in love with George. I think a book should be written.  :)

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #254 on: June 08, 2010, 01:58:56 PM »
Thanks for the information. I can see why Edward VIII went to holiday with Wallis to Greece. George II must be very sympathetic to his fellow king's situation.

I wonder why no photo or story on Joyce Britten-Jones ?

Maybe because she was so very discreet? Chances are there's very little in the way of correspondence, there's some to be found in newspapers/magazines and a few photos. Maybe an article but a whole book?
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