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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #270 on: June 22, 2010, 01:10:48 PM »
The middle lady looks Romanian. Maybe a lady in waiting ?

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #271 on: July 06, 2010, 05:49:42 PM »
Perhaps regulars on this message board might be interested to know that I am currently completing a major article about Joyce Brittain Jones for a future edition of RDQ. I don't think anyone (apart from Marlene) has investigated the life and background of this most discreet of royal mistresses but the story I have unearthed is fascinating and her connection to the Greek royal family is far more complex and long lasting than is generally realised.

My research has taken me to the UK National Archives in Kew, to Cambridge, to the Indian Library at the British Library (Mrs BJ was born in India) and I have received a huge amount of help from many other writers and historians. The Marquis of Queensberry (his aunt was Mrs BJ's stepmother) gave me access to his aunt's unpublished memoirs.

My great problem is illustrations. Apart from a rather tiny image in Arthur Gould Lee's 'Royal House of Greece' - there seems very little else - and I would be interested to know if anyone else has come across photographs of the 'Mrs Simpson of Greece'. There was an superb photograph of Mrs BJ in the Greek Gazette magazine a few years ago but I only have a poor photocopy. 


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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #272 on: July 06, 2010, 09:01:54 PM »
Perhaps regulars on this message board might be interested to know that I am currently completing a major article about Joyce Brittain Jones for a future edition of RDQ. I don't think anyone (apart from Marlene) has investigated the life and background of this most discreet of royal mistresses but the story I have unearthed is fascinating and her connection to the Greek royal family is far more complex and long lasting than is generally realised.

My research has taken me to the UK National Archives in Kew, to Cambridge, to the Indian Library at the British Library (Mrs BJ was born in India) and I have received a huge amount of help from many other writers and historians. The Marquis of Queensberry (his aunt was Mrs BJ's stepmother) gave me access to his aunt's unpublished memoirs.

My great problem is illustrations. Apart from a rather tiny image in Arthur Gould Lee's 'Royal House of Greece' - there seems very little else - and I would be interested to know if anyone else has come across photographs of the 'Mrs Simpson of Greece'. There was an superb photograph of Mrs BJ in the Greek Gazette magazine a few years ago but I only have a poor photocopy. 



I bought an old scrapbook that had an photograph of what is supposed to be George and Joyce walking in London. I would have to dig the scrapbook out and it would have to be verified but if those 2 things can be accomplished you would be more than welcome to use it. It was a good size photo of decent quality--though not the highest-quality magazine paper. It's been some time since I've seen it so I can't recall anymore specifically--just that I was excited to see it.  :)  I would just need to know when you would need it because Lord knows my house is in chaos right now and where exactly the scrapbook is packed away is anyone's guess. And I hadn't scanned the image. Just let me know.
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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #273 on: July 07, 2010, 11:27:24 AM »
Thanks for your efforts. She seemed like an interesting person to know and research. Elisabetta did not have such a steady influrence in her life after her split from George.

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« Reply #274 on: July 07, 2010, 05:28:25 PM »
Thanks Grandduchessella
I really appreciate your offer of help and would love to see the image you described. I have sent you a message including my contact details.
Again many thanks

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #275 on: July 11, 2010, 12:31:47 PM »
I wonder when was the last time Elisabetta and George met ?

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #276 on: July 11, 2010, 05:00:09 PM »
At the funeral of Queen Sophie in 1932.

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #277 on: July 11, 2010, 05:19:29 PM »
I wonder if there were many queens who really hated their countries half as much q. elisabeth hated greece ... it strikes me every time I read something about her, remains quite hard for me to understand how that marriage even lasted that long!
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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #278 on: July 11, 2010, 06:37:18 PM »
Thanks Grandduchessella
I really appreciate your offer of help and would love to see the image you described. I have sent you a message including my contact details.
Again many thanks

I finally located the right scrapbook! I was beginning to freak. It is a nice picture--you can see her very well, not blurry at all--and it is ID'd as her in the contemporary caption (Nov 1946). I will get it scanned and e-mailed off to you.  :)
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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #279 on: July 12, 2010, 09:48:19 AM »
I don't think she hated Greece, but circumstances of her marriage made it sour for her. Elisabetta was so isolated there with few friends ready to help her.

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #280 on: July 21, 2010, 08:55:11 AM »
Elisaveta looking good



 

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #281 on: July 21, 2010, 04:49:53 PM »


Elizabeth with George, his parents King Constantine I and Queen Sophie and her sisters-inlaw Irene and Helen in 1922. Thinking about it Helen was twice her sister-inlaw because of her marriage with Helen's brother George and Helen's marriage to Elizabeth's brother Carol. Funny both the married women (Sophie and Elizabeth) look very devoted towards their husbands. Aldo Sophie looks a bit more devoted than Elizabeth... ;)

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #282 on: July 21, 2010, 09:41:26 PM »
Queen Sophie looked sad here.  :(

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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #283 on: July 22, 2010, 05:28:25 AM »
yes she look sad because of the dead of her second son Alexander. At least I think so.
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Re: King George II & Queen Elizabeth (nee Romania)
« Reply #284 on: July 22, 2010, 11:35:58 AM »
Yes...although both Constantine and Helen were smiling. He looked a bit weak though...